no babies?

[chinlover24]

Vet care aside, pet store chins should not be bred, you do not know the health of the parents, grand parents etc and you could potentially be breeding chins who will have a disease called Malo which is heart breaking to have an animal with, and the animal in the end will suffer..... Having had to have a chinchilla put down from it, please stop trying to breed them.

Take it from a forum full of fantastic breeders and pet owners who are going to ALL tell you the same thing, do not breed pet store chins.

i dont me to be offensive in what im posting, i know you have a lot more expierience then me. but i have no were else for the male to go. when i got them the petstore said it would be fine (im not saying there right, just thats what i though)

 

[chinlover24]

If you are giving the males away, why put him through castration? Surgery is not fun for any chin, unnecessary surgery is nothing but risk.

You cannot know if your chins have any type of genetic defect. Just because they don't fur chew, doesn't mean they aren't carriers of malocclusion.

Chinlover - If you're going to continue posting, use the edit button. Do not post one right after the other, it's annoying and takes up space.

If you're going to laugh about breeding pet store chins and not listen to the advice of people with tons of experience over you, then don't bother posting. I'm not going to babysit this thread when it blows up in your face. You are 14, you have no clue about breeding (which is quite obvious), and you're also obviously not going to listen when experienced breeders give you advice, so please, do us all a favor and just don't post.

i wasnt laughing at seperating them, i was at the vet bill thing.

 

[StevieP]

i dont me to be offensive in what im posting, i know you have a lot more expierience then me. but i have no were else for the male to go. when i got them the petstore said it would be fine (im not saying there right, just thats what i though)

Instead of your dad paying for a castration, can he buy you another cage to put the male in?

Breeding these chins is not a risk worth taking.

 

[chinchillalover0927]

also you wont breed them once because if she gets pregnant the male will continue to keep breeding her and it will be a never ending process..so you really dont make any sense?? and yes, he/she is only 14 go look at there other postings , thats how i found that out

 

[chinlover24]

i'm pretty sure the female is prego though, so i don't think i should stress both of them out by seperating them. and also i don't have enough room for another cage. but possibly. i just don't want to seperate them because of how bonded they are.

 

[chinlover24]

thats why i'm taking him out before the babies are born and getting him neutured.. like i said before.

 

[ticklechin]

As the recipient of several chins with malocclusion, vet bills are no laughing matter, and its not fair to the new owners of your male kits to get attached to those chins only to have them have genetic defects.

 

[Stackie]

You're not going to stress them out by separating them. They will do just fine. The male can actually still breed the female while she is pregnant, and get her pregnant again. It isn't unheard of. They also need to be separated before she has the kits because they can breedback- breed again right after she gives birth and get her pregnant again.

They are little humans in fur coats. They will not become so stressed that it is detrimental to them if you separate them. If you're worried about them getting lonely, keep them in separate cages side by side, but make sure they are separated by a few inches. They can still breed between bars if they're close enough.

 

[aznmexaggie]

Even if it is just one litter, what will you do if the female kits end up with their roots growing into their eye sockets? What if you rehome your male kits and the same happens to those babies in their new homes? What if the new owners don't want them anymore - will you take them back? What if your female needs a C-section - are your parents willing to pay a few hundred dollars for the vet? What if your female dies during/after delivering? Will you be able to handfeed the kits every 2 hours around the clock until they are weaning age? These are all possibilities.

 

[chinchillalover0927]

thats why i'm taking him out before the babies are born and getting him neutured.. like i said before.

so you know exactly when this chin is due??? you can argue with me all you want but i just had this incident happen..i left them together because i felt bad and planned on taking him out BEFORE she had her baby, but i came home to a dead baby and he bred her back before i could seperate them...so he WILL breed her back before you take him apart from her because you do not know when she is due...and early you said they havent had babies yet so how would you be able to tell she is pregnant......

have had my pair of chins together for over 6 months now. the female is two and the male is one and a half years old. When we first put them together the male was trying to do his thing but she rejected him. we never found the plug, but there cage is quite large, so im not suprised. do you think she should be pregnant. or would she have had babies by now. is this common?

your saying 2 different things now so which one is it?

 

[ticklechin]

i'm pretty sure the female is prego though, so i don't think i should stress both of them out by seperating them. and also i don't have enough room for another cage. but possibly. i just don't want to seperate them because of how bonded they are.

If you actually do get the male neutered, he needs to be separated from the female after the surgery for a few months while the operation heals and the sperm all die. You need another cage.

 

[chinchillalover0927]

If you actually do get the male neutered, he needs to be separated from the female after the surgery for a few months while the operation heals and the sperm all die. You need another cage.

i was thinking the same thing but forgot to post it

 

[chinlover24]

okay, i did not know all this when i bought them, i know you all are alot more expierienced then me in breeding chins. but the chins have already most likley mated like i said above. i value this site, and would like to not get a bad rep so i can learn more about chins and not make other mistakes. i am going to figure somthing out so i dont have to get rid of any babies, so the small risk of this diasese spreading wont happen. so please stop twisting my words and making look like i dont care about my chins health and well being. thats why i joined this site so i can be more educated, thanks for all your advice i will use it to do the best thing for my chins and there future kits, once again i apologize if anyone thought i was being disrespctful.

 

[chinlover24]

i do have another cage that i bought for them that i would keep him in during that period but in the long run i think that the cages most people use for chins are to small, so i would want to eventually get him back into my big cage that i built for him. or atleast build another.

 

[chinchillalover0927]

okay, i did not know all this when i bought them, i know you all are alot more expierienced then me in breeding chins. but the chins have already most likley mated like i said above. i value this site, and would like to not get a bad rep so i can learn more about chins and not make other mistakes. i am going to figure somthing out so i dont have to get rid of any babies, so the small risk of this diasese spreading wont happen. so please stop twisting my words and making look like i dont care about my chins health and well being. thats why i joined this site so i can be more educated, thanks for all your advice i will use it to do the best thing for my chins and there future kits, once again i apologize if anyone thought i was being disrespctful.

well if you are trully wanting to do the rite thing you would seperate them NOW..but you refuse to? im glad you came here to learn but if they are giving you advice dont you think you should take it?

 

[chinlover24]

yes. but really i dont think moving my male into a tiny cage away form his gf, and having two lonley chins is worth seperating them because of the small chance of diasese. im sorry but thats were im at, and thats were im gonna stay

 

[chinchillalover0927]

then you are not here to learn and do best for your chins like you just stated...its not ONLY about the disease, you think its healthy for your female to have littler after litter....its NOT! and you refuse to understand that and im going to guess its because of your age that you refuse to think things through correctly... so please, i know other people are going to say this. when something goes wrong they are not going to want to hear it because you REFUSED to seperate your chinchillas because you want them to breed and thats where your going to stay....

im telling you from experience...i bred a pet store chinchilla and she had a dead baby......then because of my ignorance she got bred AGAIN the day she had the baby...so dont act like i dont understand your position because i have been there..and its not pretty..also your females pelvis may not even be able to pass a baby during birth....did you think of that? are your parents going to fork out hundreds of dollars on a c section on a chinchilla? are you able to even tell when she is in labor to know that she cant pass the kits ? i dont think you can and most likely they will die inside of her and she will die when they start to cause health problems for her that you wont notice because you know nothing about them...i ask that you please seperate them for her safety? if you dont...then you dont care about anything but breeding them.

 

[ticklechin]

okay, i did not know all this when i bought them, i know you all are alot more expierienced then me in breeding chins. but the chins have already most likley mated like i said above. i value this site, and would like to not get a bad rep so i can learn more about chins and not make other mistakes. i am going to figure somthing out so i dont have to get rid of any babies, so the small risk of this diasese spreading wont happen. so please stop twisting my words and making look like i dont care about my chins health and well being. thats why i joined this site so i can be more educated, thanks for all your advice i will use it to do the best thing for my chins and there future kits, once again i apologize if anyone thought i was being disrespctful.

Malocclusion is not a disease, its a genetic defect and the risk is not small, its huge when dealing with pet store chins. You will find here on this forum many pet owners who had to put down their beloved chins due to this horrible disease, I personally had to put down 4 chins including my first two chins who came from Petco, at the ripe old age of 3 and many thousands of dollare later in vet bills and that was for only those two. Please have compassion for those owners who may end up with your kits and don't breed these chins.

 

[ticklechin]

then you are not here to learn and do best for your chins like you just stated...its not ONLY about the disease, you think its healthy for your female to have littler after litter....its NOT! and you refuse to understand that and im going to guess its because of your age that you refuse to think things through correctly... so please, i know other people are going to say this. when something goes wrong they are not going to want to hear it because you REFUSED to seperate your chinchillas because you want them to breed and thats where your going to stay....

im telling you from experience...i bred a pet store chinchilla and she had a dead baby......then because of my ignorance she got bred AGAIN the day she had the baby...so dont act like i dont understand your position because i have been there..and its not pretty..

IMO yelling at this person is not going to help, educating them on why and who it can hurt may since they do not seem very experienced with chins in general. I am not policeing you, just tossing out my opinion.

 

[chinchillalover0927]

im not yelling at them...im just telling him the truth...everyone is trying to educate this person and they refuse to listen...