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Gorgeous! Congrats on finally getting your goldbar baby! Can't wait to see more pics of her as she grows.
 
I must be blind, they both look like beiges to me :err: They look a lot different than the goldbars I have seen...much more like beiges. Maybe it's just cuz the pics aren't very clear. Congrats
 
It's cool, Heather. It's just that 1) anyone working with Goldbars, except for Serena of CPP, is pretty secretive about working with them so most of us hobby breeders have no idea who actually does have any and 2) we have all seen people new to chinchillas thinking their chin is a rare variety, when really it isn't. I'm not saying you are either new to chins or mistaking their color as they look like goldbars to me (but again, I'm no expert on them either), just that when someone we don't know all that well comes around with a known and rare variety, we want to sniff it out. I admit, I'm curious as well, but I respect you and your mentor's privacy.
 
Ok, I understand, I guess I was a little naive about the seceretive thing, no hard feelings. :cute: I think if you have a variety that needs as much work and is as rare as the goldbars are... people who have them should work together and share info ect...
I also understand how it would look because I am relatively new to the forum, and no one knows me. I just dont have as much time to be online as other folks, I have a ranch and four kids, and by ranch I mean goats/llamas/ chickens...not chinchillas, lol. My chin herd is only at about 50 chins or so right now, lol.
 
What a beautiful, gorgeous, absolutely darling baby! Goldbars, wow! Congratulations! I bet you're beaming in pride.
 
Not to be rude or anyhting but I have bred and owned a golbar female and her kits (I bred her to a Black velvet) anyway I sold them to Serena to so she could work with them and I am confused as to how you can really tell if it is a true Goldbar if their is dominant beige in there as the true goldbar does not look that different from a pink white (except the dark eyes)? mMy mentor and myself always made sure no dominant beige was in the recesive beige lines we bred whether it be goldbar or sullivan to keep the line true, we had heard of a few people putting the dominant beige in the recessive lines and wondered why? I am asking not to argue or debate I am just curious how you do it and be able to prove it is a true recessive beige as this is very different from my experience in working with them, so please don't take offense.

BTW pretty chins and Congrats!!
 
I'm going to have to agree with chingal... on how do you tell?

Anyone I know who has GB's doesn't breed them with beiges... it looks like a homobeige kit to me... *dunno*
 
It can be done. It has been done. it is possible for you to tell the differance . Most of the recessive goldbars and many of the original "sullivan beiges" originated from at least one dominant beige parent. The same thing that was done with the ebs. was also done with the dominant beiges. The "sullivan beige " also has appeared out of the violets. Because Lloyd bred recessive beige carriers into his violet herd and even admited such in his own articles.
Maybe people working with lesser known mutations would feel more willing to share info. If every time the posted a snippet of info. everyone didn't jump on them.
 
RMC said:
It can be done. It has been done. it is possible for you to tell the differance . Most of the recessive goldbars and many of the original "sullivan beiges" originated from at least one dominant beige parent. The same thing that was done with the ebs. was also done with the dominant beiges. The "sullivan beige " also has appeared out of the violets. Because Lloyd bred recessive beige carriers into his violet herd and even admited such in his own articles.
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Thanks Luke, I know the sullivans are pretty easy to spot with those bright bright red eyes but I had no idea they had ever been bred to violets! Very interesting information.
 
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