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Would you breed a pet store chin?


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Nope, definitely wouldnt. Then again, I'm not breeding at all. PERIOD. But even if I was, I would never want to do anything that could jeapordize a chin's life. Keep 'em as pets, please!



No way. I love my petstore chin but I know nothing regarding her history. Her age is even a mystery to me. A petstore tells you what they want to get you to buy the animal. As much as I would love a clone of Shelly breeding her would be a BAD idea. I'm not a breeder nor do I intend to be. When I get my next chin it will be a rescue.

gizmo's heartbroken. he said he's gonna stop going to the gym now cuz theres no point...
 
Short answer is: No I would not.

I haven't seen anything in a petstore worth buying from a breeding standpoint, anyway.

That said while not everyone in breeding here has a "current" pedigree attached to their cages (1 or 2 have eaten their pedigree's, and thats the only copy I had, I misplaced another one) they were ALL pedigreed, and I know who they are from, and what colors the parents were at the very least. I have no problem breeding these animals in question, but they are from breeders I've been dealing with for years now and I know and trust their animals. This is 100% different from breeding an animal that someone has NO idea of their history, who they came from etc.
 
No. I wouldn't because there is nothing I could find at a petstore I couldnt get from a breeder. And with a breeder you know history. Plain and simple. But I also wouldnt breed just any chin I could get from a breeder either.
 
I never will, no, absoluetly not. In Quebec, rare are the breeders who really puts their heart into health and quality. And I'm glad I'm among them.

But I did, 10 years ago, breed a pet store chin. Fortunately, I know where almost all the babies are (and babies of babies too, cause one of the female ended up in a wrong place...) and still nothing about malo yet, and heart murmurs (terribly common over here). Still got the couple though and the male is fixed.
 
Malo will always be a issue with chins and no matter where you get your chins you have no guarantee, since some breeders breed whatever and they sell to reputable breeders.
At this point, I feel pet owners should just get the chin they are happy with.
 
Due primarily to the health concerns, I would not breed a pet store chin. I would, however, be weary of not breeding soley because of the "quality" of the chinchilla. By quality, I mean physical quality such as coat texture and physical size of the animal. I currently have a pet store chin and a breeder quality animal. There is a noticable difference in the physical aspects, and not a question about the superiority of the breeder chins coat. However, most of the breeders on this forum are breeding animals for primarily pet purposes. Yes, there are shows and such, which again judge an animal on its coat and size. But with chinchilla coats going out of style,and not many breeders still breeding to make coats out of their animals, why does it seem that a pretty coat still seems to take precidence over a great personality? If I had a healthy pet store animal with a extremely friendly personality, and a great quality show coat animal that bit everyone and everything, I would breed the pet store animal.
 
Huffnpoof - Why can't you have a show quality, awesomely furred animal, that's got a nice personality too? I think you'll find that most larger breeders don't breed nasty animals, so your point doesn't really matter when it comes to large breeders. I know my barn isn't full of evil nasty animals that bite every time you go near them. I do have a couple who get nasty when they have kits, but that's about it. Other than that they are all handleable and will come to the front of the cage to visit.

Fur coats aren't going out of style. In fact, I understand the pelt market is on the rise again as the economy starts to stabilize. But regardless of whether they are for pet or pelt, there has to be some sort of standard to breed to. Or, do you agree with breeding cockerdoodlesnichitzelhounds as well, because they have nice personalities?

ETA: In answer to the original question - no, I wouldn't. Then again, maybe some of the people who voted yes would shop for their animals in a pet store. I don't make it a habit of buying my breeding stock there. There are plenty of good breeders to buy from. I'll spend my money there, not at a pet store.
 
I agree with Peggy and would like to add personality is not passed down as much as you think and personality is a crappy reason to justify breeding any animal. I have to tell you Color champion chinchillas make great pets!
 
Tunes, Im absoutly sure that as breeders of great animals, most of the breeders on this forum take personality into consideration when choosing to breed the animal. I just feel that when breeding these animals to primarily be pets, the personality and tameness should take precidence over the coat color or quality, not just be equally or less imortant. If a breeder quality animal has it, great. But I just think that because a pet store chin doesnt have the best quality coat, doesnt mean that they shouldnt be selectivly bred for personality traits we'd like to see in our pet animals. Again, things like unknown medical history and unhealthy animals make me say generally no to breeding pet store chins, but I feel the coat quality argument is shakey.
 
You can actually tell how strong the pelt market is by the price of the chins in the major chain stores. $129.99 (Petco/Petsmart) and the pelt market is way down, pelters are dumping young animals into the wholesale market. $179.99 (what we're at right now) and they're holding animals to pelt.

Granted I don't go shopping at pet stores for regular stuff let a lone chins, but if I saw something AMAZING, yea, I'd pick it up.
 
I agree with Peggy and would like to add personality is not passed down as much as you think and personality is a crappy reason to justify breeding any animal. I have to tell you Color champion chinchillas make great pets!

Im sorry, but personality is NOT a crappy reason to breed. Its not responsible to just breed because you like the personality of your animal, but its also not responsible to breed just because you like the coat. Im saying that after a healthy animal, tameness and personaity generally are the most important qualitys to a pet owner. So why not breed for them? Tameness is something we've been looking for in our domesticated companions for thousands of years. How is this crappy? Your dog would still be a wolf if we didnt look for a tameness and overall personality factor.
 
tameness and personaity generally are the most important qualitys to a pet owner. So why not breed for them?

A good breeder would be able to meet both criteria, competing well at shows and doing well in the pet market, which all of us manage to do. So existing show requirements are number one and temperament is secondary.

I used to just kill the nasty ones. Now I'll offer them to other breeders first but if I don't have takers they're gone. Don't want it in my genepool.
 
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I can see Huff's point for temperament. I know if you COMPARE to most animals, reputable breeders do take temperament into consideration when breeding two animals. A reputable breeder isn't going to breed a dog that is attacking everyone that walks by. In dogs, temperment IS known to pass down generation to generation.

The difference is, with CHINS they are NORMALLY docile, and well-tempered. For chins, this doesn't play a huge factor. For someone who may not be as experienced, or knowledgeable in chins they may not understand that personality of breeding animals isn't all that important. I have an extremely nasty female here- but her kits have been the first up to the front of the cage to be greeted. I would say 98% of my kits produced here ARE friendly, but that's how chins in general are. I won't breed a 5th place chinchilla just because it's sweet as pie.
 
I'm sorry, but temperament is the last thing that I look for in a chin that I'm going to breed. When I pick out my chins, the only thing I look for is their fur quality - I don't even pay any attention to the personality because it has not affected my offspring in the least bit. A lot of the chins I pick out have never been held because they come from ranchers. Some end up calm, others want to take my hand off. I could care less, if they produce a nice quality kit that I can tame, I'm good to go. Does that make me an irresponsible or disreputable breeder? Maybe in the eyes of a pet owner, but I've never received a complaint about the chins that I've sold. In fact, I get a lot of compliments on how docile my chins are compared to others that my customers have been around.
 
I understand about temperment. I do not have any truly nasty animals here. My animals are friendly and handleable. My sweetest male is a 400 gram tripod with low quality fur. Which is why he is just a pet. No matter how sweet he is I will not breed him. It is not a good reason to breed an animal.

I wouldn't breed a mean animal...who would...what breeder wants to deal with a nasty animal. But saying
If I had a healthy pet store animal with a extremely friendly personality, and a great quality show coat animal that bit everyone and everything, I would breed the pet store animal.
I would not breed the mean animal But I would NEVER breed an animal based on personality. That is what backyard breeders do...they justify breeding "friendly animals"

Tameness is not genetic it is evnvironmental personality is only about 30% genetic...it is a predisposition.. most of personality is learned based on life experiences.
 
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