Photos of 1st Place Winning Chin Found On Craigslist

[Caroline]

Till I get some photos taken of Gracie, you can see her and read about her mischievous shenanigans if you do a search for "Elfie" in this forum. She is such a beautiful big girl with an incredibly soft long coat that is very glossy. Right now she is still quite shy and would prefer to just sit in her house, but I am sure that in a few days she will settle in just fine.
I had an unsettling dream about her last night. In the dream I had for some reason taken her to the mall in a broken cage. She kept escaping from the cage and I kept having to chase after her to catch her. I was in an absolute panic about it. At one point in the dream we were in a restaurant and I was afraid that the guests would see her and report to the health inspector that there was a giant rat in the restaurant. Then at another point she nearly jumped into a giant airduct and at another point she was very close to open mall door. All the while I was angry with myself for having brought her to the mall. Dreams can be so crazy!

 

[ticklechin]

Maybe I don't understand, but why is the chins pictures on CL? What did the chin win?

 

[Andrea]

What show was it that she won 1st place? First place is good but from the photos she looks off-color and her coat looks like it is lacking in density. She may just be out of her prime...how long ago was the 1st place? Maybe it is just the photo quality...

 

[Caroline]

Her owner decided to cut back on her herd size and posted her on CL. I recognized from the photo that she was a quality chin and that she had an eartag. She took a 1st place in Sept. 2010 and her sire Jerry Lee, a dark ebony, placed Color Class Champion in 2009. I took a look at her pedigree this morning and her dam, Princess is the great granddam of our little Hayley.

Probably just the photo quality.

and I am guessing the show was in the Pacific Northwest somewhere as that is where she was bred. We live in the Seattle area. Gracie comes from Chins-NW and Hayley is from Viking Chinchillas.

 

[Andrea]

Just a side note, all ranch chins have an eartag and it speaks nothing of quality. I'll be interested to see more photos once you have them up.

 

[Caroline]

She isn't a ranch chin, she is from a local breeder.who breeds for temperament and quality. I did my research before purchasing her.
Regarding her coat, it is a little on the long side and the judge recommended that if bred it be to a male with a dense short coat. The breeder I got Hayley from will help me to find the perfect male not only for Gracie, but also for Hayley.

 

[tunes]

http://chins-n-hedgies.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20347&highlight=elfie

 

[Caroline]

Thanks tunes.

 

[Caroline]

Just a side note, all ranch chins have an eartag and it speaks nothing of quality. I'll be interested to see more photos once you have them up.

Ouch! I would be careful about making allegations like that because I am sure that there are many chin ranches where the owners strive to breed quality chinchillas and I am sure that they would not appreciate a comment like that.

 

[GorillaJTA]

Ouch! I would be careful about making allegations like that because I am sure that there are many chin ranches where the owners strive to breed quality chinchillas and I am sure that they would not appreciate a comment like that.

She did not say anything about any particular ranch. I could go to the feed store and buy some tags and start tagging chins all over the place. That does not mean they are quality. It just means they have a hole in their ear.

 

[Brittany]

I don't see anything wrong with Trio's post. Everything she said is true, I don't take that post as rude or offensive.

EDIT: Woman_in_Shoe, I'm happy that you've found a chin that you're so excited about, I think others probably feel the same way. People are just trying to point out that having an eartag and pedigree doesn't gurantee that the chin is of excellent quality. Perhaps your chin is, and perhaps she isn't. I hope you enjoy her regardless.

 

[RDZCRanch]

I'm a rancher and any rancher worth their salt will admit that you can't always breed gems. Yes, we strive for quality like any good breeder, but sometimes genetics will go the wrong way and give you something not worth breeding.

Not every breeder is a quality breeder and not every chinchilla shown is a quality animal. The show and what the animal was shown against are bigger indicators of its quality than the placing it took.

 

[ticklechin]

If your breeder told you she/he produces only 100% quality award winning chins and has never had a dud, they are a liar.

 

[Caroline]

I know. Besides if you read my previous posts, I did my homework, I contacted the breeder and I contacted the breeder that I got my first chin from before I made my decision to purchase.

 

[ticklechin]

So you are going to start breeding after having a chin only a couple of months?

 

[addictedtochins]

. I recognized from the photo that she was a quality chin and that she had an eartag. She took a 1st place in Sept. 2010

I don't know about anybody else but I think what people are trying to point out is you are not knowledgeable enough to breed chins. What did you recognize from her photo that she was a quality chin and what faults do you see?

[The breeder that I got Hayley from and I are hoping that her next litter will produce a nice mosaic violet carrier to be a husband for both these beautiful ladies that I will now have./QUOTE]
You will not know for a year if a male kit has the attributes he needs to be the perfect mate. And now you also want to breed your other female? Tell us about her. Post her pics please and her weight.
Gracie is a big beautiful girl and I don't blame you for being excited, I just know that you are not ready to start breeding yet. And Ps I was exactly in your place, I had and still have a lot to learn.

 

[Chin_Parent]

I have no experience breeding, but I do think it's important to consider why you want to breed before you do. There are plenty of chins that need homes already, and I think if you want to breed as a hobby or just to make more pets, it is much cheaper in the long run to rescue or purchase chins, rather than going through the difficult process of breeding. Additionally, you've got to consider what could happen when you choose to breed. Are you willing to chance losing either of your chins in childbirth or from complications?

I'd really spend some time educating yourself about breeding and kits on this forum, and then consider whether it's something you're interested in doing.

 

[Caroline]

Ok, first off, this is not my first venture in breeding animals. Both my mother and I have bred top quality showdogs, one of which went on to be one of the top in Canada and was compared by s judge to be as good a quality as a dog the judge put best in show at Westminster. At present my mother owns a daughter of the 2007 world sieger (champion) German Shepherd and at age 83 took high in trial at a specialty show with her. This weekend I am attending a dressage cinic being taught by Andreas Hausberger, the chief rider of the Spanish Riding School. Bottomline, I am not some greenie who has never bred quality animals before.
As far as breeding chinchillas, I have two excellent, experienced mentors, who are very supportive and helpful. Secondly, I an not just going to run out and breed her to the first male chin that comes along, but rather we are going to carefully select one. Thirdly, we plan on getting aforementioned male as a baby, so by it will be AT LEAST a year before any breeding of chinchillas takes place in my home. The breeder knows her bloodlines well enough that it increases the chances of a quality adult and if he does not turn out the way we hope then we can look elsewhere.
Hayley is still a baby and so is still a long way from being ready to be bred. I will need to post details of her in another post.

 

[lauralynne]

Thirdly, we plan on getting aforementioned male as a baby, so by it will be AT LEAST a year before any breeding of chinchillas takes place in my home. The breeder knows her bloodlines well enough that it increases the chances of a quality adult and if he does not turn out the way we hope then we can look elsewhere.

Just wanted to mention that most breeders purchase their breeding animals after they've done most of their growing. Then they know what they're purchasing.

You cannot tell as a kit how it will turn out as an adult.

 

[ticklechin]

So what does having a show dog and riding a horse have to do with chinchillas? You already want to breed hedgehogs when you just got them, why not just have these animals as pets first and see if these animals actually fits in your large animal family, shortage of space and busy work like you stated you have.