Hello.
I have a sort of urgent issue that I need any helpful advic that will help or aid me maybe in treating the symptoms a chinchilla is having here. I will include a explanation of how this happened in a post after this, but this is serious and I want to thank you n advance for reading this and any advice you might have:
I have a mother chinchilla who two days ago gave birth to what I BELIEVE might have been a mutant that was not supposed to be, but he was alive up until the birth. He was kicking and moving and everything the nght before, and then at around 2am she gave birth. He weighed EIGHTY THREE GRAMS. I will be honest he looked like a rat, somehting was not right. He was completely developed however, and had open eyes. His face and snout and nose were that completely of a rat though NOT of any chinchilla baby or nfant. He was cola when I picked him up and dead, completely body intact, cord cut, and I believe he died waiting to be warmed up by the mother, who failed to do so, as right behnd him came another chinchilla, his sister, who weighed only 23 grams. She was pushed up towards the top of the mothers ribs, I could feel how small she was from the beginning. She was alive when I found her bu there was a big big problem:
She had no nose to speak of as it had been "sloughed off" with the upper jaw area where the whiskers are on each side during birth. The mother was franticly trying to lick her clean which was making it worse, and crying. The cardboard tunnel she had them in, instead of the house, which I am glad now, was slick with blood. Also, VERY oddly, EACH baby had his and her tail cut in a completely straight "razor cut" and it looked to have happened a long time ago. I inspected this on both the dead and the alive baby and both had this trait. I am wondering if it happened during the birthng process which was obviously hard and something went wrong, as this mother has had a litter before with multiple kits and had nothing go wrong, but obvioudly something different happened.
Most importantly, other than a small tear at the base opening of her genitals which can be healed, the mother got all afterbirth out, is empty, not traumatizrd, as I immediatly removed both kits and humanely put the other one down which was already dying. One thing I know that helped is she lives with her first daughter, which is she EXTREMELY bonded with and loves. The daughter during this labor sat in a different tunnel and let off kaks to alert. I blame myself because I feel like I could have done something if I had known but I cannot believe how quiet she was giving birth to a gigantic baby hat ripped her... not ONE noise.. :cry3:
Now this is the issue:
Although there was no rooting, as the cold baby that was dead was off to the side because she was trying to get this little one out, she has developed MASSIVE mammary glands and if you simply TOUCH THEM with NO PRESSURE they let out squirts of milk.
I have seen a case of mastitis once, in a chinchilla who had triplets. ALL were HUGE and overweight, and shed about 5-7 pounds after birth before they started eating, but the mom made milk within an hour, so she had all this milkand since they did not take it, it became like "dry" is how the doctor explained it to the guy who had her, and her actual nippe ducts where the baby would normall put their mouth were raised up, and you could SEE white thick substance. You could tell it was very red under the fur and painful. The guy told me he put ice on her, and actually relieved her nipples himself once the swelling went down with the ice, which he said the ice did wonders, and then he was able to release the milk with almost no pressure at all and he told me she went just limp in his hand because it felt so good. Once the babies DID drink about a week into life, they had milk but her body was regulating it.
I am wondering if the mother I have here, is making milk because she stopped or had issues the first time, now her body has it right, but there are no babies. I DID put her with HER mother, who I have, who is 7 years old this march, and who she loves a lot and her daughter likes, and the mother just gave birth to a baby about 5 weeks ago. She weaned him long ago and has him eating hay and food but I hought maybe with the little guy he might drink i didnt know..,
He isnt interested though because I think it isnt his mom and he is weaned. Her hair started to get crusted from the seeping milk the other day, and I looed at the top nipple by her arm, and there at the base of it was what appeared to be a whitehead. Upon TOUCHING it, it opened, and out came.. MILK. The whole area was raised, and underneath it looked like she had a big muscle but I know it has to be mammary glands. I put a towel on her so she would not get any more and cut her hairs gentle around the area so they dont get wrecked and stuck. just the moving her and putting pressure from cutting hair milk squirted out up in the air..
I am wondering if I shold be helping her express this in a washcloth or something or will this just go away? If she shows to have an infection I will of course take her in but so far she is showing that she has a ton of milk and I am wondering if it isnt released, wont it just dry up into a paste and turn into mastitis?
Thanks again in advance for any replies
I have a sort of urgent issue that I need any helpful advic that will help or aid me maybe in treating the symptoms a chinchilla is having here. I will include a explanation of how this happened in a post after this, but this is serious and I want to thank you n advance for reading this and any advice you might have:
I have a mother chinchilla who two days ago gave birth to what I BELIEVE might have been a mutant that was not supposed to be, but he was alive up until the birth. He was kicking and moving and everything the nght before, and then at around 2am she gave birth. He weighed EIGHTY THREE GRAMS. I will be honest he looked like a rat, somehting was not right. He was completely developed however, and had open eyes. His face and snout and nose were that completely of a rat though NOT of any chinchilla baby or nfant. He was cola when I picked him up and dead, completely body intact, cord cut, and I believe he died waiting to be warmed up by the mother, who failed to do so, as right behnd him came another chinchilla, his sister, who weighed only 23 grams. She was pushed up towards the top of the mothers ribs, I could feel how small she was from the beginning. She was alive when I found her bu there was a big big problem:
She had no nose to speak of as it had been "sloughed off" with the upper jaw area where the whiskers are on each side during birth. The mother was franticly trying to lick her clean which was making it worse, and crying. The cardboard tunnel she had them in, instead of the house, which I am glad now, was slick with blood. Also, VERY oddly, EACH baby had his and her tail cut in a completely straight "razor cut" and it looked to have happened a long time ago. I inspected this on both the dead and the alive baby and both had this trait. I am wondering if it happened during the birthng process which was obviously hard and something went wrong, as this mother has had a litter before with multiple kits and had nothing go wrong, but obvioudly something different happened.
Most importantly, other than a small tear at the base opening of her genitals which can be healed, the mother got all afterbirth out, is empty, not traumatizrd, as I immediatly removed both kits and humanely put the other one down which was already dying. One thing I know that helped is she lives with her first daughter, which is she EXTREMELY bonded with and loves. The daughter during this labor sat in a different tunnel and let off kaks to alert. I blame myself because I feel like I could have done something if I had known but I cannot believe how quiet she was giving birth to a gigantic baby hat ripped her... not ONE noise.. :cry3:
Now this is the issue:
Although there was no rooting, as the cold baby that was dead was off to the side because she was trying to get this little one out, she has developed MASSIVE mammary glands and if you simply TOUCH THEM with NO PRESSURE they let out squirts of milk.
I have seen a case of mastitis once, in a chinchilla who had triplets. ALL were HUGE and overweight, and shed about 5-7 pounds after birth before they started eating, but the mom made milk within an hour, so she had all this milkand since they did not take it, it became like "dry" is how the doctor explained it to the guy who had her, and her actual nippe ducts where the baby would normall put their mouth were raised up, and you could SEE white thick substance. You could tell it was very red under the fur and painful. The guy told me he put ice on her, and actually relieved her nipples himself once the swelling went down with the ice, which he said the ice did wonders, and then he was able to release the milk with almost no pressure at all and he told me she went just limp in his hand because it felt so good. Once the babies DID drink about a week into life, they had milk but her body was regulating it.
I am wondering if the mother I have here, is making milk because she stopped or had issues the first time, now her body has it right, but there are no babies. I DID put her with HER mother, who I have, who is 7 years old this march, and who she loves a lot and her daughter likes, and the mother just gave birth to a baby about 5 weeks ago. She weaned him long ago and has him eating hay and food but I hought maybe with the little guy he might drink i didnt know..,
He isnt interested though because I think it isnt his mom and he is weaned. Her hair started to get crusted from the seeping milk the other day, and I looed at the top nipple by her arm, and there at the base of it was what appeared to be a whitehead. Upon TOUCHING it, it opened, and out came.. MILK. The whole area was raised, and underneath it looked like she had a big muscle but I know it has to be mammary glands. I put a towel on her so she would not get any more and cut her hairs gentle around the area so they dont get wrecked and stuck. just the moving her and putting pressure from cutting hair milk squirted out up in the air..
I am wondering if I shold be helping her express this in a washcloth or something or will this just go away? If she shows to have an infection I will of course take her in but so far she is showing that she has a ton of milk and I am wondering if it isnt released, wont it just dry up into a paste and turn into mastitis?
Thanks again in advance for any replies
