introducing and male to stud.

[Robert_the]

I have a hetro beige that is a year old and I want to breed her. I have a 3 month old dark violet that I can get to stud out but I wanted to know the best way to do that. or should I just buy him and keep him insted of trying to stud him..

 

[tunes]

People generally don't "stud out" their chinchillas because there are too many things involved. First, you would need to do a 30 day quarantine of the male in your house before you could even try to introduce them. Then the introductions themselves can take minutes to months. After that part is done, it can take anywhere from the first mating to a year's worth of matings before she actually conceives.

Then there is the risk factor. Your female could get angry that he is trying to breed her and beat him up or kill him, or the reverse could happen. He could hate her and she could refuse him and he could kill her. Most good breeders would not be comfortable with letting their chins be in that kind of a situation.

If you've got a breeding quality female (evaluated by someone experienced) and find an excellent quality male (also evaluated by someone knowledgeable) and you want to breed them, then buy the male. Then if something happens to either of them, it will be strictly your responsibility that it happened.

 

[Parkerspetchins]

What are you hoping to achieve with that mutation combination? Depending on what they carry for recessive genes you are getting a standard/vc or a heterobeige/vc out of that pairing...

 

[Godins Chinchillas]

Ditto what tunes said.

 

[Spoof]

Three months old is probably not old enough. The average maturity age is 6-8 months, some a year.

 

[starleomach]

Wow there is so much wrong here.

I have a hetro beige that is a year old and I want to breed her.

Is she breedable? did you find that out from someone qualified?

I have a 3 month old dark violet that I can get to stud out but I wanted to know the best way to do that.

3 months old is too young to breed or recognize the quality. and breeders do not usually stud out there animal for all the reasons Peggy mentioned above. And why that color combination?

or should I just buy him and keep him insted of trying to stud him..

If you want to breed you should own your own breeding male

 

[AmandaDi]

I want to agree with others in the fact that studding a chin is nothing like studding a dog or a horse! It takes time to introduce chins, and not all get preggo right away, so you could have that chin with you for months.

Also, I would want to be sure they are both breeding quality.

 

[Brea]

Ditto what everyone else has said. Definitely do some serious research. Its not all cute kits. What are your plans for the babies?

 

[addictedtochins]

Ditto to all the above
Welcome to CnH Robert the. This is a great place for you to meet and talk with other chinny lovers. You will learn so much. Theresa

 

[Robert_the]

I understand your thoughts but I am not going in this blind, I understand that "Its not all cute kits" I am not a breeder nor do i want to become one. My vet did check out mittens and she is a good size and there should be no prob with the preg.
I posted this to find out more not to be pounded like a dunce. My plans for the kits are to keep and sell some of them I have friends who would like to own one. I would do a quarantine but there is no prob with any of the chins I would get him from i know this cuz there are a lot of healthy chins there . I wanted to pick him cuz of how young he was but i can buy him and see how it goes if you guys feel that would be better . thank you for your time and answers, And i know there are a lot of peps that mess up not only there chins but can kill the babys too.

 

[Robert_the]

Ditto to all the above
Welcome to CnH Robert the. This is a great place for you to meet and talk with other chinny lovers. You will learn so much. Theresa

Thank you for being so kind

 

[tunes]

Robert - Your vet cannot tell you if your chin carries malocclusion or if it has a predisposition to fur chewing.

Also, how did your vet determine that your chin was of a good size? Some vets think 450 gm is a good size. (My vet almost fell over when I brought out a 1200 gm chin that I needed checked.) I wouldn't breed that size animal for any amount of money. Most times 700 gm and up here before they go into breeding and the way to tell if they are a good (safe) size is to check the pelvic opening. Did your vet do that?

 

[addictedtochins]

I have friends who would like to own one.

I'm sorry Robert the but, :hilarious: :hilarious:
It's just not that easy to find people who are willing to keep a pet for 10-15 years, Pay for vet care and keep them cool with air conditioning, excellent food, and endless toys/chews. I could go on.....Um do you have any idea of all the chinnies waiting in rescues for good homes-and those are the lucky ones. It's not too hard to find chins in homes that are sick, injured and misreable sp? If your friends really want and are able to care for one I'm sure we can find chins in rescues and a railroad can be arranged to get them to there new home OK

 

[Essentia]

Making it a point to get a female pregnant to keep and sell a few kits automatically makes you a breeder whether you want to be or not.

No one here is jumping on you to just jump on you. They are just looking out for the well being of your animals in the long run. Even if the vet said she can carry and have kits, he doesn't know her background, and unless you have a pedigree for her, you don't either. Malo, fur chewing, and other issues are often carried genetically, so even if she isn't showing any signs of them, it can still be in her genes and passed on to the kits.

 

[RDZCRanch]

First off, welcome to CnH! Don't be put off by the responses...there's a lot of good information in here and Peggy(Tunes) especially has a wealth of knowledge!

A pedigree isn't everything. You have to KNOW where your chins come from. A piece of paper can only tell you so much. A reputable breeder that knows what they're doing is the best to get an animal from. Chances are, if you didn't find the breeder on here or no one on here has heard of the breeder...they aren't reputable. We have a wide source of knowledge in every state. We stay very connected and most of us know the breeders in our areas.

The combination of a beige and a violet wrap is frowned upon for several reasons. When you continue to breed mutation to mutation you bring down the quality and health of the animals. I knew one breeder that had four generations of mute to mute and 80% of her kits did not survive to weaning. I'm not saying this would necessarily happen with your chins but mutations have to be brought back to strong well rounded standard animals. Since you said the male is a violet wrap(I think?) he probably already has quite a bit of mutation to mutation breeding. If the beige came from the same place, I'm sure her background shows a similar story.

If you really want to breed one time or something like that. I would suggest going to a reputable breeder/rancher and after spending a day talking with them and figuring out the risks and what to pair and what not to pair, get a nice complimentary pair. You can breed them once then pair the female to your beige girl and the male can then stay by himself or to one of your friends that's so eager to have a chinchilla themselves.

Good luck and please, for the sake of the chins don't make any hasty decisions! Remember that when you breed you are responsible for those little lives you caused to be here. It's not a decision that should be taken lightly!

 

[VolunteerChin22]

I agree with Tabitha and tunes and other advice given.

Welcome to CnH and I would do some more research with a quality breeder before jumping in. Where are you located? That might help id some people near you who could help you and maybe you could go to a show...

 

[starleomach]

I agree with the above. No one means to jump on you. and a vet would not know quality to breed that is as important as size...Anytime you intentionally put two animals together to reproduce makes you a breeder.

Please stay and research more, maybe go to a good breeder and get a better idea of quality and what to breed for. There is no sense in breeding just for pets because even the best animals produce pet quality animals and great animals make great pets too why not breed to improve.

 

[Robert_the]

Thank you for all of your time and well ment help. I do understand all of what you guys are saying,as for my friends yes I guess they will just have to find there own little ones. I do not know her history cuz I just got her from some Peps that had kits. she does not chew on her fur and look to be in good health, but from what I am reading that does not mean any thing. I have no papers for her and all i was able to do was see the mom and dad of her, I got the chinchilla becuz of that fact that they do live for so long ( when well taken care of)
so should I not even try to breed her and mabey get a another little girl as a buddy for her?

here are some pics of her

Let me know what you think..
I am in central Va

http://picasaweb.google.com/Drwigglesva/BigBoy?feat=directlink

 

[Siylvat]

so should I not even try to breed her and mabey get a another little girl as a buddy for her?

Aww! She is very pretty! I think another girl would be a great idea. It is so fun to watch them play and cuddle together.

 

[ABBY W.]

I would definitely not recommend breeding her, simply because you don't know her background. She looks very pretty, and may seem perfectly healthy. But she could be a carrier for a number of genetic problems, like malocclusion. If she is, then she could produce kits that could develop malocclusion and be very sick and miserable, then have to be euthanized at a young age. You would do very well to get her a female cagemate to live with.

If you really want to breed I would definitely suggest you go to a breeder, to learn and select your breeding chinchillas. Breeders can usually tell you the animal's pedigree back for several generations. And any reputable breeder will not breed any animal who has dental, heart, or any other genetic problem. This doesn't mean their animals won't ever develop those problems, because sometimes they do just by chance, but the risk of that happening is MUCH smaller.

Out of curiosity, what part of VA are you from?