Diff breeds

[Linganne]

Which is better? A same breed to put together or diff breed? Or are tgere any pro and cons? Does it really matters?

 

[tunes]

Linganne - There is only one "breed" of chinchilla. There are 3 different body types.

Are you already jumping into breeding, despite knowing absolutely nothing about chins? If you are only putting same sex together, then knowing what matches up together would make no difference.

 

[aznmexaggie]

There are no breeds of chinchillas, only mutations.

It is best to take mutations back to quality standards in order to make improvements in the offspring. Breeding mutation to mutation for many generations will result in poor quality offspring.

 

[tunes]

Sumiko - Like most people who read 5 minutes on the internet, I'm guessing she's thinking type of chin when she says breed of chin. There is only one breed of chin, and there are 3 different types within that group.

 

[chinnychinchinchilla]

if you are putting same sex together then i dont think it matter what type, or color they are. chinchillas dont discriminate. if you are putting them together to breed i suggest you dont. breeding is a tricky buisiness and isnt all fun and rainbows. for someone as new to the chin world as you i wouldnt suggest it at all. its better to just have a chinchilla as a pet. it takes someone thats been around chins and knows a LOT about them to breed successfully. even then a lot of people still wont attempt to breed.

 

[ticklechin]

You have had your chin less than a month and it fur chews. No one is going to pay for one of your fur chewing chins offspring. Also, do you have a HUGE vet fund and even a vet who is experienced with chins? Female chins can have birth complications and need C cections and its not fair to euthanize a Mom and kits because you can't afford a emergency vet visit. They can cost $1000-2000.00 in US dollars.

 

[CJR]

Linganne - There is only one "breed" of chinchilla. There are 3 different body types.

Are you already jumping into breeding, despite knowing absolutely nothing about chins? If you are only putting same sex together, then knowing what matches up together would make no difference.

Three different body types? I could have sworn that there were three breeds, but I am probably wrong.

 

[tunes]

Ash - Chins are not broken down into breeds. There is only one "chinchilla." Then there are three body types or I suppose you could call them "sub-species":

http://www.granitecitychinchillas.co.uk/page6.html

 

[Claire D]

Breed: "A breed is a group of domestic animals with a appearance, behaviour, and other characteristics that distinguish it from other animals of the same species. ..."

Species: "(biology) taxonomic group whose members can interbreed "

So there were/are 3 types of body shape within the chinchilla species.

 

[GorillaJTA]

I suppose you could call them "sub-species"

I thought brevicaudata and lanigera were considered interbreedable separate species and our modern domesticated chinchilla is progeny of those interbreedings...

 

[Claire D]

For info:

http://www.unep-wcmc.org/isdb/CITES/Taxonomy/tax-common-result.cfm?source=animals&displaylanguage=eng&Common=6237&tabname=all

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Chinchilla

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A57221219
Classification/Taxonomy

Chinchillas are large rodents, there are three species

* Chinchilla brevicaudata
* Chinchilla lanigera
* Chinchilla costina

As an example, Chinchilla lanigera is classified as follows:

* Kingdom Animalia
* Phylum Chordata
* Class Mammalia
* Order Rodentia
* Family Chinchillidae
* Genus Chinchilla
* Species Chinchilla lanigera

Semantics.

 

[GorillaJTA]

That is what I thought. I thought it was similar to squirrels- several species that can readily interbreed within the right geographical area, but would not otherwise.

 

[tunes]

You're saying the same thing I said, aren't you? That the 3 "sub species" of chinchilla are still all just under chinchilla? I'm not sure what your point is.

MY point was that Linganne needs to not worry about what "breeds" of chinchillas she should be putting together. She shouldn't be putting ANY male/female chinchillas together, since she appears to know absolutely nothing about their care, their genetics, or anything else.

 

[kimbt622]

Peg, i'm just curious... costina chinchilla is the only species of the three that is domesticated, right? The others are only in the wild?

 

[Claire D]

The chinchilla brevicaudata is listed as number 57 in the top 100 most endangered mammals on the planet.
http://www.edgeofexistence.org/mammals/species_info.php?id=57

The chinchilla lanigera is listed as 472.

Domestic chins are generally thought to be a combination of brevi & laingera (as they make big, blocky chins for the show bench) - costinas are typically the long, pointed nosed, "ratty" looking chins.

 

[Linganne]

Tunes- first and foremost, yes i'm new and i know nothing much as itz just been months. Think about it i've read up lots about chins, the net comes with different stuffs and i hVe a chin now. For a begginer knowing and doing it is diff. I'm asking cause i want to know ppl with experince what would they say, to be sure of whatever my decisions are. You maybe very experinced as ya hands on. Just reading is pointless. Naturally if someone hqs a new pet they'll pay extra attention and care on it, and the slightest thing that foes wrong tends to worry them. So yeah... Hope ya get my point!



The other guys thanks!!!

 

[Linganne]

By the way i got it wrong. Its not the breed its the colour we talking abt. Like if i piu a beige and grey together will it be ok? As iam awAre if ya put two diff colours to breed then problems will arise. Just to let those who ate curious to know I'M NOT A BREEDER or WANTInG tO BREED THEM... But yes iam very much curious and interested in trying it out. I will breed them but not now. And even if i do i'll only do it once!!!!!

 

[ErinsChins]

Only once? Well once could easily be a trip to the evet for a c section..honestly, no one here is going to tell you that's okay, because it isn't

 

[starleomach]

By the way i got it wrong. Its not the breed its the colour we talking abt. Like if i piu a beige and grey together will it be ok? As iam awAre if ya put two diff colours to breed then problems will arise. Just to let those who ate curious to know I'M NOT A BREEDER or WANTInG tO BREED THEM... But yes iam very much curious and interested in trying it out. I will breed them but not now. And even if i do i'll only do it once!!!!!

I just want you to know before I start your posts are extremely hard to read/understand. not as much this one as the one before. I am guessing you are very young.

As to color. As a breeder Color is the last thing I consider when pairing two animals first I decide if they are even of breedable quality, then I look at their strengths and faults, then I look at their lineage and if I own the parents I look at the parents strengths and faults, after that I decide on color.

If you have a fur chewer he is not breeding quality, fur chewing bumps them off that list immediatly. And people who are breeding for the right reasons to not take their beloved pet and breed it, even "only once" Everytime I hear that statement it seems to come from a backyard breeder who puts two crappy coated, wedgy, mutations together and say..I am only breeding them once and I am not breeding for quality I am breeding for personality..or I am just breeding for pets.

25% of kits from even the best pairings are worth keeping...that means If I pair my two phenominal champion animals and pair them correctly 25% are worth keeping the other 75% are pet quality. So I never understand those people who "breed for pets" all pairings will produce some pet quality why produce 100% pet quality? Show animals make great pets as well.

I would start with learning the basics of care before going into learning the basics of breeding. Try just taking proper care of 1 first for more than a month.

 

[Chintastic!]

I dont really want to get into the "debate" here, but just as a response about the OP. I think it gets confusing when we talk dog "breeds," where logicly an dog can breed with any other, then transfering that idea to a chinchilla. You dont think of the different subdevidions as being the species. The terms used to describe things often make them more confusing as well. I do agree with not breeding, especially when you do not know from where your chin came, or it has such enoroumous faults as fur chewing. I didnt gather from the first post that the OP was intending to breed. I just thought it was a curiousity question....