qtpie61282
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So a little history first...
Nugget, my violet ebony carrier has been with my standard male for a few years now, lost a kit in april of 2012 and just a few months ago I noticed her acting funny so I figured she was pregnant again.
Months and months, she is acting lethargic, laying on her side, typical pregnancy signs.
Since its been like that for months, I thought maybe she selectively aborted her litter because she was stressed for some reason, because those pregnancy signs slowed a bit.
I went in to check on her yesterday and found a small round blob, like a placenta, in the center of her cage so Im thinking, sweet she did give birth and was nursing her kit. I go to move her a bit to see what was going on and off to the side of her was what I thought was just more placenta but it was in fact a deformed fetus.
Super small, looked to be half a chin, both back legs were there, no arms, and skull was mooshy but it's jaw was intact and I could move it up and down like a normal mouth.
I pushed on its skull a little and noticed a bunch of pink/white puss oozing out.
So instead of thinking she gave birth to a deformed kit, I then started to think she had aborted her kit, body tried to resorb it and failed, the dead kit has been in her decaying for not sure how long.
Anyone else experience anything like this? I have had still borns and kits who just don't make it, but never this.
And it was just after I read that article in the MCBA newsletter about selective abortion too!
Pics are graphic....warning!
So all in all, she is being retired. she has had only one successful litter of twin boys back in 2008. Lost a kit in 2010, 2012 and now 2013.
Just wanted to get the opinion of some of the more experienced breeders on here
Nugget, my violet ebony carrier has been with my standard male for a few years now, lost a kit in april of 2012 and just a few months ago I noticed her acting funny so I figured she was pregnant again.
Months and months, she is acting lethargic, laying on her side, typical pregnancy signs.
Since its been like that for months, I thought maybe she selectively aborted her litter because she was stressed for some reason, because those pregnancy signs slowed a bit.
I went in to check on her yesterday and found a small round blob, like a placenta, in the center of her cage so Im thinking, sweet she did give birth and was nursing her kit. I go to move her a bit to see what was going on and off to the side of her was what I thought was just more placenta but it was in fact a deformed fetus.
Super small, looked to be half a chin, both back legs were there, no arms, and skull was mooshy but it's jaw was intact and I could move it up and down like a normal mouth.
I pushed on its skull a little and noticed a bunch of pink/white puss oozing out.
So instead of thinking she gave birth to a deformed kit, I then started to think she had aborted her kit, body tried to resorb it and failed, the dead kit has been in her decaying for not sure how long.
Anyone else experience anything like this? I have had still borns and kits who just don't make it, but never this.
And it was just after I read that article in the MCBA newsletter about selective abortion too!
Pics are graphic....warning!
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So all in all, she is being retired. she has had only one successful litter of twin boys back in 2008. Lost a kit in 2010, 2012 and now 2013.
Just wanted to get the opinion of some of the more experienced breeders on here