Chin Dribbling!

[Asha]

Well, I don't think it necessarily sounds like more illness based on what you are describing. I've read that chins who have teeth issues will paw at their mouths alot which is why I first thought maybe the wetness was from that. If her nose is completely dry then that sounds like a good thing, just keep an eye on it.

Oh yes, the wet circle on her shelf, sorry I forgot to answer, not sure about that one. Most wet spots on my shelves are just pee!

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how to describe wheezing. I know that's not helpful! I would mostly just listen for any changes in her breathing, like, if you start hearing any strange noises when she inhales/exhales.

Overall, it sounds like your primary issues here are teeth and GI. I would be rather surprised if she had a URI on top of that. The wetness right below the nose sounds like a probable case of her pawing at her mouth out of discomfort. Sorry if I worried you! All I knew was that if it wasn't the pawing, then URI would be the next thing to look at if the discharge was directly from her nose. I'm pretty sure URIs come with additional symptoms, but I couldn't name them all. Im sure if you do a forum search you would find more specifics.

 

[Asha]

My chins sneeze too, usually after dust baths! Hopefully its just her pawing at her mouth. Its good the vet took a look just in case. You can always double check with them of course which will help ease your concerns.

 

[ticklechin]

Drool comes out of the slit, its something that dental chins do, its not a URI.

 

[Buddy]

Just a question on Malocclusion?
Is Malo. only root elongation where teeth grow upwards out of the eye sockets or jaw line etc..?
Or is it also where teeth grow wrong and align themselves wrong but nothing to do with roots??

Bubbles is home from her dental surgery and he said he could see why their was a lot of pain and what was causing her to dribble. One of her back molars was digging into her chin. There were a few sharp spurs too, and one tooth had become to wide?? Is that Malo? One tooth wasn't 'straight' it has a bit of a curve to it, That has been filed down too.
Is this malo or just bad teeth that can be fixed? I know she's old and know once things like this happen it is ongoing...
Just wondering

 

[ticklechin]

You can have advanced elongation with perfectly straight teeth-I have a skull like that and had a chin like that, you can have advanced malo with no elongation-have a several skulls and had several chins like that, chins can have both also. One tooth out of alignment is technically malo and in this chins case it will need to be filed occasionally-I had one who lived until 17 with that condition, he needed to be filed anywhere from 6 months to every couple of years since he was age 4.

 

[Buddy]

Aww, it's a painful thing and I don't know if letting her go and putting her to sleep would be best for her?
Either way she's home with okay teeth for the now- not eating yet obviously but wanting too.

What's best for her? Let her live and have this horrible disease or let her out of her misery of having her teeth grow out of her eye sockets? :S

 

[ticklechin]

If its only one tooth like my 17 year old, he lived a great life, I never thought of putting him to sleep since his condition was so minor and stayed stable.

 

[Buddy]

Ah I see. Also bubbles seems to still be effected by her anaesthetic. Shes very tired and just wants to sleep but wakes up for a bit of syringe food. Is this normal or should she be awake by now?

 

[Asha]

Glad to hear your chin's surgery went well and they were able to help her! Wishing her a speedy recovery

 

[Buddy]

Thank you! Still on rocky ground atm though

 

[Basket_of_Chinchillas]

So what exactly did the vet do while your chin was under? Was it just a tooth filing or was there also an extraction? Do you have metacam or another effective painkiller that you could do pain management with? Also, do you have x-rays? (Sorry if you answered this already, just skimmed through the thread).
I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet, while malo generally leads to a much shorter life for our beloved chin friends, it isn't necessarily over yet. With proper pain management and hand feeding when necessary (depending on the extent of the malo) your chin may have a while yet.

 

[Asha]

I definitely agree with Basket, don't give up yet! I know it can take them a bit to recover from any type of invasive procedure, hang in there! I know 24 hour care and hand feeding can be very stressful because you want to see your chin thrive and be healthy again. I've def been there. Rooting for you Buddy and Bubbles!

 

[Buddy]

He said it was a tooth filing, and he cut a bit of a tooth off that was growing wrong. No, he didn't prescribe me with any painkiller. I'm guessing the second injection thats on my receipt is pain killer? But it also could well be fluid. No, he didn't take xrays this time just the first time he saw her. This was last year and her teeth and roots were overall not too bad. He said an xray wouldn't prove anything as things from her former xray would just get worse. I wouldn't want to question him as this is the second time he has saved her life. If I had a million pounds I would be handing it over to him for everything he has done for her.
Should I have painkillers for this? As he didn't really say anything about painkillers he just told me next time to get her back in as soon as I sense a problem like I did this time.

 

[Buddy]

And thanks Asha means a lot

 

[Basket_of_Chinchillas]

An updated x-ray can help give you an indication of how fast things are progressing. If your chin continues to not be able to eat following the tooth filing (say, after a week, sometimes a chins gums can get little cuts from the filing/swell/etc. which can increase recovery time), it could be that pain from root elongation is now a bigger problem than it was. If this is the case then pain management might be your next step (metacam is a commonly prescribed pain killer). I hope your chin bounces back and is eating pellets and hay from just the filing.

 

[Buddy]

How long could it take for her to eat pellets?

 

[ticklechin]

Some chins it can take a week or two to go back to eating pellets.

 

[Basket_of_Chinchillas]

I once had a chin with malo and after his teeth were filed he was on painkillers and handfeeding for a about 3 days, and then I weaned him off the critical care (syringe food) and watched his pellet and hay intake. It took about a week before he was back to eating normally.

 

[Buddy]

Ah I see, it took me 2 weeks to wean Bubbles of the Science Recovery stuff last time she has dental surgery. I'm really hoping it doesn't take that long this time as I doubt constant syringe food is a decent food. Although she has Fibreplex on top of this. I can't see it being exactly good for her or her teeth as she's not chewing as much as she should be.

I think I may ring the vet up and see what they say about some painkillers as she seems to be pawing at her mouth a lot at the moment and grinding her teeth, so Im taking it that she's in some kind of pain?

 

[Buddy]

She seems to have perked up a bit. She has her 5 minute spouts of energy and then back to sleep she goes. I'd rather this than what she was doing earlier Doesn't seem to keen on her syringe food anymore and hasn't bothered with her water bottle. But I have fed her a fair few times today already, so maybe that's just it? Let's hope she's different tomorrow!