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sounds like you are dong all you can - When I have to hand feed I feed about 100-150 ml per day (divided into 2 or 3 feedings) So I certainly do not think you are feeding too much
As for the dandelion - I feed it fresh right out of my yard (flower/stem and leaves) They just LOVE it I pick a whole small bucket full -- My rabbit gets some too and my cats try to steal them from the bucket If I have any left after the chins/rabbit gets theirs I give the rest to the cats. Half the time the cats just want to play iwth them
 
Thanks everyone for your advice and support. I finished my midterm early (not sure if that's good or bad) so I'm going to try to make it home. [Side story: gas light went on on my way home from the vet lest night so I set my odometer, but was then running late for school and didn't get gas this morning. I had to move more money from my college fund into checking so I can put gas in my car but now I don't know if I can get to a gas station! haha]. If nothing else I will feed Nib once I get there. Maybe take a nap. And definitely not taking feeding advice from the vet. They charge me extra money to see an exotics vet and this and that and then the VET doesn't even know what's going on half of the time... I should charge THEM for every bit of dumb info I get. (I know, I know... can't expect them to know everything and be perfect all the time. But this vet... lemme tell ya. She had an attitude problem. Every other word out of my mouth she interrupted to give me some cordial version of "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD TREAT YOUR ANIMAL THAT WAY!!!" accompanied by intermittent glares of disapproval and judgment. As if that's what someone with a dying pet needs.)

Again, thanks everybody. <3
 
Alrighty... just got off the phone with the receptionist at the animal hospital who told me:
1) She will try to e-mail the x-rays to me but warned that I may not have a way of reading the files. What she doesn't know is that I'm double majoring in computer engineering and computer science, so there is nothing technological on this planet that will come between me and my x-rays.

2) She asked her hospital manager about the propulsid, who said that it is a human medication that is no longer commercially distributed in the US, so it would have to be prescribed by a vet then sent to a licensed pharmacy for compounding. She's leaving a message for the vet I saw last time (joy) to call me back and discuss putting him on it, but I'm unsure of when she will be in to call me back, or if she will budge on prescribing it. Her I'll-do-what-I-want attitude with me at the exam (and the fact that she cleaned and stapled his injury without my consent then charged me for it because she "couldn't stand to see him that way") leads me to believe she will either not call me back, or will refuse the prescription. At that point I can either speak with the other vet that I saw or buy it online (thanks Tunes).
 
What a horrible ordeal you're having!! Hang in there and do what ya gotta do.
Some time ago one of my boys was having the tiny poos and cut back eating almost
to none. I quickly started the cc and acidophilus and after feeding the cc i got him
to take weak chamomile tea (he would drink that easily) in a dropper. This got him
drinking water and i think that really can help--hydrating. Good luck with your little guy.
 
What a horrible ordeal you're having!! Hang in there and do what ya gotta do.
Some time ago one of my boys was having the tiny poos and cut back eating almost
to none. I quickly started the cc and acidophilus and after feeding the cc i got him
to take weak chamomile tea (he would drink that easily) in a dropper. This got him
drinking water and i think that really can help--hydrating. Good luck with your little guy.
 
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I am heart broken to have to announce that when I returned home from an exam this afternoon, I found that Nibbler had peacefully crossed the rainbow bridge in my absence. My sorrow is echoed by the entire house, and no one mourns more than myself and Nibbler's cagemate, Brock. I regret that I could not have done more to help him so that he may have been with us much longer, as he was not any older than 5 years and had much more love to give to my family, me, and Brock. However, I am glad that he is now relieved of the pain and suffering that he was experiencing from bloat and from the bite wound that initiated his declining health. He is still very much loved by all, and we have mourned for him greatly since I found him today. My boyfriend and I took the ferry out to my lake house and buried him behind my family's cabin in the forest - the place where I acquired the fondest of my memories.

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Special thanks to all of you who helped me through his suffering in chat, as well as those of you who were with me in chat when I discovered his body. You were a better consolation and support than you may realize, and your advice has helped me cope with both my emotions as well as my decisions regarding Brock in light of Nibbler's death.



On another note, the vet's office returned my call during the ferry ride home (the sunset seemed especially beautiful - I can only assume it was to celebrate Nibbler's life well-lived) saying that the propulsid was unnecessary in our case because he was still passing stool, but that if I really insisted they could call around to find a compounding pharmacy to produce it for me. I promptly corrected her about the status of Nibbler's defecation last night and informed her of his death. Her only response was that she was very sorry to hear of my loss, and that she would update his file in their computer system. I still have not directly spoken with either vet that I saw, nor have I received the x-rays that I was promised earlier this afternoon.

I will be more adamant in my chinchillas' care from now on as it would be a disgrace for Nibbler's death to not also serve as a learning experience for me, despite the condescending and stubborn nature of any vet I get stuck with at any animal hospital in the future. Additionally, I implore all of you to take complete and informed control of your babies' care. I caught Nibbler's bloat while he was still throwing out large healthy poos, and had him at the vet within 2 hours. Even with this fast action, the reluctance of the vet to give him injectable medications rather than oral as well as the further reluctance to provide the ENTIRE treatment necessary for this condition prevailed over my better judgment and undeniably led to his death around 24 hours later.

I cannot help but feel responsible for this, no matter how many people tell me I did everything that I could. It is my personal opinion that the responsibility of his death falls on me just as the responsibility of his life and care fell on me and me alone. The $400 I paid that vet over the past week to make him better is dwarfed by the amount of love he and I shared in his final days, and I would've gladly paid more for the treatment he received to enjoy those last days of cuddles and scritches before his passing. He left this earth knowing we loved him dearly, and I hesitantly accepted his parting knowing he loved all of us just as much.

Thank you, everyone.
 
I am so very sorry to hear about Nibbler. I know you did everything you could, and his memory will live on through you. Give Brock some scritchens from me, I'm sure this is tough on both of you. :(
 
I am so sorry for your loss.

So many losses of late. It just leaves you feeling empty.
 
I am so sorry. I cry every time I read of someones chinny passing on. I hope he is at peace and I hope you are too, as you did everything possible to try and help him.
 
so sorry to hear about your loss - you DID do everything you could Unfortunately there are too many vets that don't really know what they are doing when caring for chins and then refuse to admit it
 
I can feel your pain and I am very sorry for the loss of your Nibbler. You need to forgive yourself in order to heal from your pain and move forward, I know it will take time. You did do everything you could and we all know you were fighting for your little guy until the end. Your words were almost exactly as mine at the passing of my chin almost 5 months ago...

I will be more adamant in my chinchillas' care from now on as it would be a disgrace for Nibbler's death to not also serve as a learning experience for me,

I know that Brock will be your comfort now, spoil him. My thoughts are with you.
 
Sending my deepest sympathy for your loss of little Nibbler--so sorry he couldn't get
through it...
 
I'm so sorry for your loss of little Nibbler. He knows he was loved. May he rest in peace in Chinnie Heaven and spend his days fondly remembering you.
 
Thank you all for your support. I've made the decision to offer up my home to another chinchilla in need, much as I did taking in Nibbler and Brock to begin with. I will be picking him up on Friday and keeping his name: Maud'Dib. I would attach the photo of him that was in the craigslist ad, but the current owner has deleted it in anticipation of me picking him up.

The pet hospital sent me a card shortly after Nibbler's passing sending their condolences, and tonight I received another card sent from the vet that saw us at our most recent visit. It read as follows:

"I'm so sorry for the loss of your Nibbler. He must have been an important member of your family. Thank you for providing him with a kind and loving home. My thoughts are with you. -Dr. Kathryn Krueger"

Somehow the wording of this note doesn't exactly provide any consolation to me. Maybe I am reading into it too far, but I almost feel as if she's being sarcastic and blaming me for not shelling out the $1300 she initially wanted from me to save him. Blaming me for not bringing him in sooner as the wound in his shoulder looked worse from Nibbler's self-traumatizing. Blaming me for not pointing out the obvious issue of his constipation during our multiple hours in the exam room at the vet. More than anything, blaming me for his condition to begin with - may it have been because I didn't separate my boys the last time Brock bit, or because I fed them pinches of oats once in a blue moon. Perhaps this is my guilt embodying itself in the twisting of kind words.
 
First off I am sorry for your loss..It is always tragic and a horrible feeling to lose any animal..

Congrats on your new addition..

Lastly about the vets card..take it at face value..do not let yourself think of any undertone involved..It will play on your emotions and leave you feeling bad..take it at face value and move on for your own sanity..
 
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