I am sorry that you consider me rude and condescending, but perhaps I was just shocked at what appears to be a double standard on this list. Perhaps I should have waited over night and replied later. And you have helped argue my point for me. Yes, hamsters have different diets than chins or rats. Even more food for thought, the five hamster species commonly kept as pets each have different optimal diets although they have many similarities. The person who started this thread is discussing chin treats supposedly designed for chin diets. Why would it then be recommended that they are good for hamsters and rats? True, wild rats tend to eat anything and everything. Domesticated, well bred rats should eat a quality diet, and the one most often chosen by those I know is a Teklad lab diet.
I haven't been a member long, but I have been reading much longer. I took on a couple of rescue chins a few months ago. Knowing that I didn't know their optimal diet, I did some research and special ordered some Mazuri for them. I also picked up some PANR (which doesn't have to be special ordered). Although I would never have considered the junk food from pet stores knowing how bad it is for hamsters, this list stopped me from feeding them fresh fruits and vegetables which is the main treat I give my hamsters. My chins get a mix of PANR and Mazuri plus their daily treat of hay which they love. Previously they were getting a diet with a few pellets and a lot of sunflower seeds, raisens, and other dried fruit.
Each species needs its own optimal diet. Junk food for chins would not be a quality diet for hamsters or rats.
Over the weekend, I picked up a pair of adult pedigreed chins. Although rescues are always nice, I wanted a pair of well-bred and well-raised chins. I have learned a lot from this list and hope to do right by all of them. I'd just encourage others on this list to see other species in the same light that they see their chins.
Linda