What mutation is this?

[Spoof]

Found the pics of a couple of the ones she sent to Luke. Yes, they had a chewing problem hence the reason Ronda never pursued them.

He is not on this forum. He used to be on and run the Empress forums, might still be contact-able through them.

Ronda's whites are the ones denoted "born standard, turned white" if there are any left.

 

[mishalaa]

It is interesting to see which club defines what, but when you get down to it they are all a mosaic.

Mosaic and white are not interchangeable terms. All mosaics are white, but not all whites are mosaic. Mosaic is a broken pattern; silvers, predominantly whites, and whites with dark guard hair have a uniform pattern.

Yes, breeding a mosaic can produce the other patterns, and the other patterns will produce mosaics. A white is a white is a white, but a predominantly white is not a mosaic.

The only reason any of this makes a difference is when it comes to matching pelts, which is why the MCBA recognizes the different patterns. A predominantly white pelt will not be in the same lot as a bunch of silvers.

 

[Spoof]

Mish or anyone else who has seen them - is this a good example of a silver? She is out of a black/white cross dam

Sorry I forgot to answer this - that chin would be judged in the white with dark guard hair because his face has darker markings.

Silvers are just that - an even silver over the entire body. I've only seen three shown and classified as such - they were all Ronda's. Two others with another judge were put into the standard class and they get murdered because they have no veiling. It comes down to who is sorting and who is judging.

The only reason any of this makes a difference is when it comes to matching pelts,

I know, but the OP was asking what she should ask for to get the correct colored pet. She's looking for a regular pure white mosaic.

 

[threewingedfury]

This is one of the girls born here that was classified at a show as a silver:

 

[ticklechin]

Recessive white and fading white different? Didn't TOV ranch work with them also?

 

[RDZCRanch]

TOV Ranch had about 18 of them for a while. They are the same ones that ended up at Furball.

 

[ticklechin]

They were just gorgeous, I remember her posting pics of them and I drooled.

 

[mishalaa]

There is more than one recessive white, Fading Whites are one of them. Stone whites are another and Piebald yet another, but if they're still being bred I'm not aware of it. They are all different genetically than the Wilson white, but could be classified in the same four patterns (silver, mosaic, etc). The Lowe Recessive Whites... are not white.

 

[Vyxxin]

Correct, they're beige or, they appear to be phenotypically

 

[Gabby88]

This is a friend's chin and she's been wondering what color he is. Now I'm thinking he's possibly a fading white. Do you think that's what he could be? He used to just look like a standard, but now that he's getting older, his face is white.

 

[Spoof]

Now I'm thinking he's possibly a fading white. Do you think that's what he could be?

Sure, they were wholesaled in droves. Never surprises me to see strange things in the pet market.

 

[mishalaa]

Gabby, very possibly. Do you know how old that chin is?

 

[Gabby88]

I think he's around 4 years old.

 

[VolunteerChin22]

This is one of the girls born here that was classified at a show as a silver:

Ok then some of mine have been silvers then because I have had several that looked like this, especially out of one female, who herself is not a silver. Thanks tiff!