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Encantadora

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So I was contacted by a woman in charge of outreach at our local zoo. She had seen we had a few rescues for adoption and wanted to inquire about getting some for their education program.

Immediately a few concerns were raised but I went ahead and sent a questionnaire.

I'll let you pick out my concerns for yourself... they were not approved.

"I filled out the form and please let me know if you need anything else. The chinchilla will not be living in a personal home. It will be living in the Education Animal Building at the Zoo and housed with 45 other species.


We are looking to use it in our educational programs. The programs are in controlled environment like a classroom and some petting may be allowed in controlled situations. We do not offer petting Zoos which we get lots of requests for. We have used chinchillas in the past for these programs and they work out great. We have had great success with these animals living to be seniors."

This is a follow-up to the filled out questionnaire.

" Can you tell me more about the diet you offer? Such as what kind of hay and if any other supplements or treats?
We feed Oxbow pellets and Oxbow Hay (usually timothy but other types for enrichment). We also give some produce everyday like sweet potatoes, carrots, apples, greens. We also have a list of approved treats that our Vet approved which included in moderation raisins, sunflower seed, yogurt drops, anything special we buy for them at Nashville Pet Products. Both of the Vets that are on staff of course specialize in exotics and have experience in regular practice as well.


How many stories is the caging? It does sound a bit small for a chin, especially two. Do they have ledges? If so, what are they made out of?
Here is link to the company we use http://cornerslimited.com/stackable.html.

It is pretty standard caging that most Zoos I have visited use. They are a great company, a little expensive. This may not be the exact model we have but it looks similar. The cages are wire bottoms but we have never had problems with them before because they are very well made.

We give them boxes to climb on. There is also a small carrier they can hide in and sleep in and climb on. There are 3 levels but separate, they are stacked.

The cages are large enough to house a regular size rabbit which is what we originally bought them for. It can work for 2 chinchillas but I think we are just interested in 1 chinchilla right now. If we have to get them together we probably can. I have worked here for 15 years and bumble foot has never been a problem for any of our small animals. Our cages are approved by USDA and TWRA and AZA.

Is there anything in the cage for enhancement?
There are plenty of items to climb on and in. We also keep a detailed list of enrichment and so there is something different everyday such as new treats, socialization, new toys, shredded paper, exercise ball, etc. The animals will also spend time out of the cage every day. There is also a separate container for dust baths."

I explained why the diet was not correct, but good luck battling against an on-staff group of vets. And I sent some links, but I'm guessing it's an uphill battle educating a zoo! It's hard enough educating new owners that think they read the right websites.
 
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Looks like they will be going elsewhere to get a chin. They aren't interested (surprise) in being told what is ok and not ok.

in her words "I have other ways of obtaining a chinchilla"

I still had an itty-bitty piece of hope that they'd take a few things into consideration regardless.
 
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I think it all depends on the people. I worked at a public aquarium for a number of years in husbandry, and all of our staff actually cared to research our animals. But a lot of times at the bigger places, especially places that tout AZA cred, they think they're the be all and end all of animal care. AZA and other things are mostly political and don't mean anything about general animal care.

It's unfortunate that this one didn't want to actually care about what they do with their animals.
 
Wow. I feel really bad for the chin they are going to end up with eventually. It will end up with digestive issues with those things being given to the poor little guy. :( I wish she would listen...it was rude of her not to listen.
 
I'll PM you the name... but anyone from the zoo would be a concern

I was very careful to be nice and not sound like a know-it-all, but said there is so much we have learned in the last few years... here are a few good resources to check into.
 
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Encantadora,

There is an edit feature at the bottom right side of your posts. If you are within 10 minutes of posting, please use that feature to add to your post instead of posting again and again. I've merged your posts in this thread alone 3 times already.

Thanks!
 
The thing that bothers me the most is kids and parents are gonna see them giving fruits and veggies to the chins and think "If a zoo does it, it must be good!" If they ever get a chin, you bet they're gonna do it too. Sad story, since zoo's are mainly for educating visitors.
 
What qualifies as "senior" to the zoo? Most people I meet irl who ask about their life spans think ancient or long lived chins would be 5-7 years, tops. Way off. I don't like to be "THAT pet lady" but I don't know why some educators are so resistant to being educated themselves.
 
the positive is they are getting out for playtime and are getting oxbow.....other than that the poor little guy is going to be a mess....i wish people would listen when those of you that are more experienced try to help.......
 
That's terrible. Sounds like they don't know the difference between a rabbit and a chin. Glad you're not giving them a chinnie, (or chinchillada, ha!). Hope someone who visits the zoo will talk to them about what they're feeding him or her. But like you say, good luck on educating a bunch of vets who think they know more than conscientious chin owners.
 
The thing that bothers me the most is kids and parents are gonna see them giving fruits and veggies to the chins and think "If a zoo does it, it must be good!" If they ever get a chin, you bet they're gonna do it too. Sad story, since zoo's are mainly for educating visitors.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Its horrible!! Its also scary to know that these " Vets who specialize in exotics" don't know jack. :(
 
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