How did they get them in the first place? They just look like a regular chin with longer hair... I think I read something about them being bred to recessive over and over again, but is that healthy? For $2000 would you even be getting a quality animal?
Royal Persian Angora Chinchillas??
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Chinniechantel
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I just imagine how much work must go into grooming them! It is not fun combing a regular chin, but I can only imagine these are a bit more time consuming. They are gorgeous though, I really want one.
I always bug my husband about it, and beg his family that lives in Ecuador to get one for me! A fellow chin breeder and myself were going to each get one or two and maybe breed them, but with the economy the way it is, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And buying an angora carrier worried us- you really could never prove if it was or was not a carrier for sure, and spending 1500k on one without being sure...crazy!
I always bug my husband about it, and beg his family that lives in Ecuador to get one for me! A fellow chin breeder and myself were going to each get one or two and maybe breed them, but with the economy the way it is, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And buying an angora carrier worried us- you really could never prove if it was or was not a carrier for sure, and spending 1500k on one without being sure...crazy!
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Rickman
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Not to mention the grief involved if they found out, Chantel! They may keep an eye on chinchilla sales around the world to prevent them from coming back to the U.S.!
Personally, I think a little competition would be good for them!
Personally, I think a little competition would be good for them!
Sandi
non-stop poop sweeper
Those angora chinnies are VERY cute, wish I could have one too.
I am Ecuadorian :wave3: well, I was born in Illinois, but lived several years in Ecuador and both of my parents are from Ecuador and I still have some family there!
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Chinniechantel
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Lol, I would like to see them try and stop me! What, this is my chinchilla- what, long fur? I don't know what you are talking about. :thinking:
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SunshineChins
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Chantel,,
If you ever do get your hands on one I wanna see one up close.. I think they are okay looking but like my little guys more.
If you ever do get your hands on one I wanna see one up close..
I think they are okay looking but like my little guys more.
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MerrittChinchillas
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Earliest estimates put the origin of what is now known as the Royal Persian Angoras somewhere in the early 60's at a ranch in Ft. Worth Texas. A few years later there were some being raised by a man of Polish descent in Canada. In 1966 Roy Wilson started working with them and after several years his friend Doyle Briscoe became partners with him. In 1997 Pam and Tamara purchased them from the Briscoe's and spent the next 8 years improving them. Chinchillas.com sells them, but only outside of the US as of now. I don't know what their reason is to only sell outside of the US, but it is their decision to make. There are not a lot of them available, so the market bears the price. What would make you think there would be any higher instance of malo in them than any chinchillas? I have never seen one as of yet, but hope to someday soon. If they were mine I would probably be doing the same thing with them.
Riven
Bad Chin
But did you take into account the longer fur?
I'm going to guess that with the limited gene pool you would have to line breed more, which would lead to the compounding of genetic traits, including malo.
I seriously doubt that anyone in the US would pay $4000 for them anyway. And they very well may have a contract stating that you can not sell them back into the US for X amount of years. Such a thing is not unheard of and stipulation sales are very common in the dog world, especially among high quality breeders and showers.
I wondered about the malo question too Vicki. I'm assuming in order to progress, much like with any mutation, you have to create carriers by using outstanding standards and so on. Would it be different with these guys?
And heck no! If I could get $5000.00 a chin, you bet they would only be sold outside the country.
And heck no! If I could get $5000.00 a chin, you bet they would only be sold outside the country.
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MerrittChinchillas
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I don't believe it would be any different Peggy. I'm going to see Tamara and Pam in a few weeks and I'll question them a bit on the Angoras. I keep telling them I'll trade a nice standard for one, but they just laugh at me. I don't understand why? :thinking:
Vyxxin
RAF Chins
My mistake
I honestly did think this was the reason...I mean, it makes obvious sense (financially) to not offer locally but I could've swore I read somewhere that they did offer them for sale in the US every so often?
Twilight Chinchillas
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Oh you would be surprised at how many would pay the price. For some it's a status symbol. I've seen it in birds plenty. Some Ringnecks at one time were going for $10,000 each for rare colors, and people did buy them!
The only difference though was they didn't ban sales in the US. The crimson bellied conures were another example. They were at one time $4000 each, and by the time I got my first pair were $1200. I don't have them anymore, but I look back and think was I nuts or what? Took a lot of blood sweat and tears to get them, but was worth it! Now they are much less. In part to so many people now breeding them, which is surprising because they aren't very prolific.
