So Bonnie and prince have been living together for about two months now we don't know if Bonnie is pregnet but she looks bigger and eating a lot more food then she did. So last Friday I came into the room to find prince hiding under his wheel and his fur throughout the cage along with his fur being wet. Know all of a sudden Bonnie won't let prince near her without her chasing him down. So my question is, is this from the hormones of her possibly being pregnet or does something like this happen with chins and suddenly they don't get along.
Pregnet chin and her mate living together
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Dreamlite
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Sometimes chins just decide to hate their cagemates. I would remove him asap! I have seen chins kill eachother. Be glad you go a clear warning. Check him over to be sure that he doesn't have any wounds. Being pregnant doesn't make a difference. If she doesn't like him then they need to live seporate. Do the chins have pedigrees? How old are they? What are your breeding goals?
aznmexaggie
Chinchilla Chateau
Sometimes chins just turn on each other. Please separate immediately! I have had two instances where a female randomly attacked her mate after they had already been together for over a year... In one of the cases, the male had bite wounds on his ears, rump and around his mouth and had to be handfed until he recovered. In the second instance, the male was killed by the female (this was even in a breeding run where the male should have been able to get away!). Chins can be vicious sometimes so when I see fighting, I separate (or block off the runway) ASAP.
I separated them for a week and now they seem to be fine. The wierd thing is I don't have problems if there both outside the cage. The only thing that I have noticed is that he will try and mate with her but she runs off so could this be the problem?
I don't have pedigrees for them. The female is a year old and the male two months older. And I don't know what you mean by breeding goals.
I don't have pedigrees for them. The female is a year old and the male two months older. And I don't know what you mean by breeding goals.
Vyxxin
RAF Chins
Breeding goals- the goals any individual sets to better the species when they put one male of that species with one female of that species.
Due to the excessively long lifespan of a chinchilla, and the fact that most chinchilla rescues I know are full AND the fact that without a pedigree you you could be passing bad genetics such as teeth issues that will cause a slow and painful death to your kits...you NEED to have breeding goals. A reason other than wanting "cute fluffy babies" to breed your animals. There really IS an over population of chinchillas. They're the new dog and cat...they're showing up in loads of shelters...just something to consider when you breed your unpedigreed chinchillas. Why?
Due to the excessively long lifespan of a chinchilla, and the fact that most chinchilla rescues I know are full AND the fact that without a pedigree you you could be passing bad genetics such as teeth issues that will cause a slow and painful death to your kits...you NEED to have breeding goals. A reason other than wanting "cute fluffy babies" to breed your animals. There really IS an over population of chinchillas. They're the new dog and cat...they're showing up in loads of shelters...just something to consider when you breed your unpedigreed chinchillas. Why?
Zoaea
O.o
Ya goals help you decide which chinchillas to match and where the babies will be going. Even if you want to sell babies as pets, people want a chinchilla that looks good and not rattie with bad fur.
You can pick up high quality breeding chins if you really want to raise and sell babies for a few hundred dollars each and have the breeder help show you how to spot good qualities and how to strengthen weaknesses. Remember chins live a really long time and one female could have several babies a year, no need to flood your area with weak furred chinnies when you could be raising ones that improve the chinchilla breed. =)
If your goal is one or two more chins for yourself I'd buy a baby from a breeder, my female almost died 3 weeks ago giving birth to her first litter, I had to pay 850$ to spay her and save her life, plus she had two complications that each cost another 300$ each and I still might loose her because the last three days she stopped eatting on her own (I have to force feed her a special diet). I have one baby that lived that I hand feed every 2-4 hours round the clock. This is my first mated chin pair, and the moms first litter. If I just wanted more pets I could have bought 10 normal chins or 3-4 super fancy chins for that same price. =s This is why people are asking about your goals.
You can pick up high quality breeding chins if you really want to raise and sell babies for a few hundred dollars each and have the breeder help show you how to spot good qualities and how to strengthen weaknesses. Remember chins live a really long time and one female could have several babies a year, no need to flood your area with weak furred chinnies when you could be raising ones that improve the chinchilla breed. =)
If your goal is one or two more chins for yourself I'd buy a baby from a breeder, my female almost died 3 weeks ago giving birth to her first litter, I had to pay 850$ to spay her and save her life, plus she had two complications that each cost another 300$ each and I still might loose her because the last three days she stopped eatting on her own (I have to force feed her a special diet). I have one baby that lived that I hand feed every 2-4 hours round the clock. This is my first mated chin pair, and the moms first litter. If I just wanted more pets I could have bought 10 normal chins or 3-4 super fancy chins for that same price. =s This is why people are asking about your goals.
Oh ok, we have a pet store in line already and have talked to the manager already. We bought both of them at the same pet store also. When I got both of them we did not get a pedigree they just told us that they were from local breeders that have been breeding for awhile. They both seem in great condition and nothing seems wrong.
I just want to know why Bonnie is chasing prince all around the cage. I've heard that when you have a pregnet female they will do this and you should get a collar so they don't hurt the male. We want to breed them for the experience of seeing and taking care of newborns.
I just want to know why Bonnie is chasing prince all around the cage. I've heard that when you have a pregnet female they will do this and you should get a collar so they don't hurt the male. We want to breed them for the experience of seeing and taking care of newborns.
Cuddlebug
Well-known member
Pet store chinchillas should never be bred. You do not have any real background information on them and they are usually poor candidates for breeding any way. Breeding a litter or two just for the experience is not a valid reason to breed, especially when we are talking about chins without pedigrees or any real known history on any of them.
Additionally, if they came from the same pet store, they are probably related and should not be bred. Without the pedigrees, you have no way to know.
Additionally, if they came from the same pet store, they are probably related and should not be bred. Without the pedigrees, you have no way to know.
Zoaea
O.o
Ya, there are quality issues besides just being healthy too. Think on it this way, the breeder isn't selling their best stock to the pet store and you wouldn't know if they were closely related.
If you get a pair strait from a good breeder they could help you match the fur qualities for good results plus teach you how to care for the mom and babies. You should be ready for things to go wrong. I've read a lot threads in this forum and there are a few that discuss kit death rates and its about 15-20%, that wouldn't include complications without death too, so have a vet fund ready.
For example I just spend about 1300$ total on my females first litter because the mom needed surgery, then had several complications. She had one standard kit and is now sterile. So that is a pure loss I'm taking.
(btw I thought pet stores can only buy animals from licensed distributors? Might want to look into that.)
Oh and what age are the chins, females can't be breed too young or they face greater risks, and most pet shops sell them young.
If you get a pair strait from a good breeder they could help you match the fur qualities for good results plus teach you how to care for the mom and babies. You should be ready for things to go wrong. I've read a lot threads in this forum and there are a few that discuss kit death rates and its about 15-20%, that wouldn't include complications without death too, so have a vet fund ready.
For example I just spend about 1300$ total on my females first litter because the mom needed surgery, then had several complications. She had one standard kit and is now sterile. So that is a pure loss I'm taking.
(btw I thought pet stores can only buy animals from licensed distributors? Might want to look into that.)
Oh and what age are the chins, females can't be breed too young or they face greater risks, and most pet shops sell them young.
ticklechin
Well-known member
I believe you can't sell over 500.00 worth on chins a year to a retail petstore for resale without a USDA license, to sell that little is SO totally not worth breeding, why bother especially if the chins have no history and can produce malo chins, just so happy pet owners can buy them and watch them die.
Zoaea
O.o
Ah I forgot the original post was about them fighting, should be separated because of that anyway, female can kill a male if he can't escape (like when they are both in a cage). They might not disagree all the time, but if she already showed that amount of aggression towards him I would be worried about coming home to a cage full of loose fur and a dead/injured chinnie. =<
Vyxxin
RAF Chins
Chins can fight with each other for any number of reasons...ONE is pregnancy...but there are SO many reasons, and no reason at all, that chins can fight and to the death. It's not worth it IF they're already showing this issue.
That said, as far as a collar goes...collars are for run breeding. Special cages, special collars. They're not for use in regular cages, they don't prevent a female from attacking a male (or a male from attacking a female). What they DO prevent is a female from getting out of her cage. The collars keep the female in, the male stays uncollared and can get out of the cage. Keeps the male safer if he wants to escape but does NOT keep the female safe from an aggressive male. Does NOT keep the male safe if he cannot escape in time or in a panic.
That all said, I would say if your petstore is willing to give out the breeders names...that's one thing. You can get in touch with the breeder, get more information and maybe make a more informed breeding decision. However, this is not likely to happen. Petstores don't care about that sort of thing and worry that if they give the info out you'll go direct to the breeder for purchasing future animals and will likely get a better deal than they can offer...decreasing the petstores sales and profits.
That said, as far as a collar goes...collars are for run breeding. Special cages, special collars. They're not for use in regular cages, they don't prevent a female from attacking a male (or a male from attacking a female). What they DO prevent is a female from getting out of her cage. The collars keep the female in, the male stays uncollared and can get out of the cage. Keeps the male safer if he wants to escape but does NOT keep the female safe from an aggressive male. Does NOT keep the male safe if he cannot escape in time or in a panic.
That all said, I would say if your petstore is willing to give out the breeders names...that's one thing. You can get in touch with the breeder, get more information and maybe make a more informed breeding decision. However, this is not likely to happen. Petstores don't care about that sort of thing and worry that if they give the info out you'll go direct to the breeder for purchasing future animals and will likely get a better deal than they can offer...decreasing the petstores sales and profits.
