HELP!!! Why is it so hard to find someone who will sell??

[VeronicaL]

I have been looking all week for someone who is willing to sell young chins. I've finally talked my husband into letting me get the family a couple of small pets. I've even purchased this awesome two story cage and all the accessories so I'm all set up and waiting to give these animals a good home. At the same time I think it would be cool if we got a male and female and if they had babies it would be fun for us as a family to go through the process and for the kids to see the kits. I don't care about bloodline, papers or any of that stuff that "breeders" would care about. I just want two chins! All I get is a lot of emails back from breeders who act more like detectives trying to figure out if I'm "trying" to breed. One even told me they wouldn't sell me a male and female together. It's absurd! Are the breeders worried there will be competition? I can't figure out the reason they are so touchy about this. Everyone says stay away from pet stores --- not sure where else to go at this point.:banghead:

 

[tunes]

You have answered your own question. I wouldn't sell to you with the attitude you have, not even a same sex pair. Responsible breeders care about what you do with a male and a female from them. Back yard breaders don't. You saying "I want to get a boy and a girl baby so they can make babies" would make me run screaming in the opposite direction for so many reasons.

You're not going to get any other answer than the one I gave on this particular forum, unless people go into even more detail about breaders and not caring about pedigrees and backgrounds. Try owning a chin for a while before you decide to breed. You don't even know if you will like chins. Research, learn, own, then decide if breeding is right for you. Then do it the right way. The world doesn't need more irresponsible breaders.

 

[Riven]

Breeding is not a game. When you pull and have to put down a whole line due to health issues...

You say you don't care about pedigrees, so you must not know WHY the peds are important. It's not just about who the parents are, but it's about the parents' health.

You say you want a good family pet, but you're complaining about breeders wanting to know what you're going to do with them and how much you know... chins are an emotional investment to most of us, most people you can contact for chins aren't "puppy mills" who don't care where their animals go.

I personally have no problem selling pairs same or opposite sex as long as the person shows they have knowledge and know what they're getting into. What people are hearing from you is, I don't care about quality ( pedigree, chins don't have "papers" ) but it would be great fun to make more chins!

And then you also say you don't care about that stuff that "breeders" care about, but if you put two chins together you ARE a breeder. They don't just have one litter and turn off...

My experience tells me this and the above post will anger you and you'll leave, at that point I'm sorry that you did so, but unless you acknowledge what kind of owner that you will be and why the people are asking nothing will change. Find another forum they'll tell you the same thing.

 

[mercynursie]

Can't help but wonder if this is a troll related to the previous post who "bread" their chinchilla:hmm:

 

[AZChins]

I wouldn't sell a male and female pair of babies together! That is something that would make me not sell to someone. I've sent the email that this person described as being so awful many, many times! Honestly, it would end up being more work for me when something goes wrong with a pregnancy or delivery when the people call at 2 am to get my help since things are going so wrong.....

I'm so glad that breeders are willing to hold out for good homes even though they are giving out a sale. This is encouraging to me! And, if it is a troll, nice post...

 

[chinchillalover0927]

I wonder the same thing since now that person conveniently was contacted by this person.... Geeeze

 

[ticklechin]

Troll or worse.

 

[amignatowicz]

This is not a joke. She e-mailed me wanting a male and female and I explained all this to her already.

Can't help but wonder if this is a troll related to the previous post who "bread" their chinchilla:hmm:

 

[Godofgods]

Beleive me. It realy is no joke. I wasnt prepared for my first kit, and and he is so beyond lucky to be alive today. Still scares me when i think about it. My next two kits i thought i was prepared for. And those crafty girls humbeled me in a big hurry.

Honestly, i not sure chinchillas are the pets for your family. Expecaly with kids. (Depending how they are). Chins dont deal well with stress and loud noises and such. I even told my brother (who i took my first chin in from) that id never give him back. (and with his situation, and those **** kids... its for good reason) And he agreed'.

****** can also get expencive. Expecaly if you thinking about breeded. I wasnt planning on breeding and its still a massive amount.

Maybe you should consider a dog or something...

 

[Amphy64]

I'm not sure you're not just trolling, but if you're serious have a look in the breeding horror stories section. Consider how you'd feel, and how your children would feel, in that type of situation. Things can and do go wrong when breeding, even for experienced breeders, and it's definitely not a 'fun' experience. Breeders are only looking out for the welfare of their animals by asking questions, and ultimately it helps the new owners too, because it lets them know that the breeder is responsible, and gives them the chance to address any issues, before they become a serious problem for them and their new chins.

Chins aren't for everyone, so I think it'd be better to find out if they suit you and your family before starting out with a breeding pair (in which case you'll want adults, not two young chins). They may be small pets, but the lifespan of 15-20 years means they're a huge commitment.

 

[Akunaferret]

I am not a breeder, I own two boys and simply introducing the two chins had me nervous. Breeders are there from the moment of the first squeak, they give the little one a number (sometimes even a name) and they make sure it remains healthy and weens them. Some breeders wake up every 3 hours (sometimes less) to hand feed the runts of the litter and even then, some do not make it. It is only natural that breeders have formed a bond with the kit, even if they intend to sell it on a future date, therefor it seems right that they want to make sure the pet is going to good home. If you are looking for a new home for a cat or a dog, you would want the person to love it and treat it well. It's good that you've gotten the right items for the chinchilla, but I would have sleepless nights if I were to sell you a Chin if I was a breeder, I'd be wondering if they were being taken care of properly.

You wouldn't have kids just to have kids, so why would you ask a chinchilla to do this? There are many breeders on here, experienced ones, that have had such horriable complications that they lost BOTH the mom and the babies, sometimes just the mom, or a whole litter. Would you honestly want your children to see the horrors, or go through the heartbreak that this could bring? I agree with Amphy, take a look at the horror section and decide if you trully want to breed. Thinking "Oh, this will never happen to me, I'll be super carefull" would be foolish thinking, there are MANY careful breeders that this happens too.

Chin's are a lot of work, I hope you'll do more research and decide wither or not you want chinchillas for your family, at which point I do hope you'll decide against a male and a female, after all you'll need separate cages if you get two different genders (and even with same genders they may not get along and you'll still need a separate cage)

 

[danilinn]

Veronica, we may all sound harsh, but if you have any knowledge of chinchillas, your attitude is VERY alarming to those of us who continually research, spend weeks preparing our homes and their cages before they come home, and investing in water filters, dehumidifiers, safe toys and fleece and shavings, finding the healthiest foods and hays, etc.
I hope you haven't just dashed out to Petsmart by now, but even if you have, I was in one yesterday for an Oxbow item*, and they won't sell you a pair that isn't same sex.
Bringing an animal into your life is a commitment just as adopting a human child is. You will need to refocus your priorities to the chinchilla's health and happiness and not your whims. If you do that, it'll be well worth it for the love he or she will bring into your home.
As far as breeding goes, you need to look at the breeding threads. It's a full-time job, and if anything goes wrong, then it's traumatic for everyone. I love my little girl too much to ever take the chance on putting her through anything like that.

*Happily, I met a couple there who were looking at two males. The kid working there has a chin, and was suggesting they shop online for food and hay and such. I gave them some websites (obviously including this one) to check out, and they were thrilled. It was pretty cute--the woman has a big dog, but her husband, who looked like he was probably a firefighter or something manly like that, really wanted chinchillas.