Buju needs a wife...

[AZChins]

Buju is a 1000 gram light/medium standard grey leaning more towards the light...

His wife passed away a couple years ago and he has been alone since. I believe he is about 8 years old now, I wasn't given a birthdate by the breeder he came from. He is the son on a well-known chinnie named Laurie...well, she was famous for being very very grumpy.

So...I was talking to Tab about the girls I have here. There are several big, squishy girls that would work out. Buju probably won't be a daddy, he's older and probably not too terribly into making babies as he may have once been. He never had any little ones before.

So, here are the options:

- 2 year old Black Velvet girl, 850 grams. Nicely shaped girl with a sweet disposition.

- 1.5 year old Hetero Beige girl, 840 grams. She's got nice fur and she's just a squishy beauty queen.

- 2 year old TOV white, 915 grams. Candi is spectaculon...I hide her from visitors so that I don't have to tell them no. She's a big girl decended from a color class champ and a mama the size of a small cat.

- Assorted standard grey girls at about a year old. Fat Fatties that would make good mamas to Buju Buhbuhs. That's maybe four or five to choose from.

- 2 year old Pink white, 640 grams...So so, he'd improve her offspring...whites and beiges would be good babies for him.

- 2 year old DARK DARK DARK Ebony girl, 730 grams. Nice dense fur with good shape and a darling personality. (I probably should put her with a standard, but I was thinking light eb would be better for her. His name is Gerard...)

- Again...assorted year old mosaic girlies...

Tell me what you think! If we can narrow it down to a couple, then I'll get some pictures.

 

[AZChins]

Awww...crud...I forgot to put the beige in the poll...

 

[AZChins]

Here's a Buju picture from a previous thread... He needed a brushing when I took it apparently...

http://www.chins-n-hedgies.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14450

 

[aznmexaggie]

In my breeding program, I don't use lighter phase standards for dark animals. I don't use light standards in my pure standard pairings because the veiling comes out too light. I also wouldn't use a light standard with ebs or black velvets for the same reason since the goal is to produce a dark animal or well-veiled animal.

Medium standards are best for lighter mutation colors such as beiges, whites, violets, sapphires, etc. I don't use light standards with my beiges though because it will also wash out their color and veiling.

If he is a good quality chin with a lot of other good attributes (clarity, density, and especially fur strength), I probably would pair him with a white female as long as they had complimenting qualities.

Is he a pure standard or does he have mutes in his background?

 

[AZChins]

His mama is a beige... I'm not sure about the papa though. Linda may know which male she was with way back then. I have been really thinking of the beige as being a good possibility for him... He is a nice enough chin to go in with any of the girls even though he's older. He probably won't produce, he needs some company mostely...but if he does, then that's okay.

 

[aznmexaggie]

Do you have pictures of the potential ladies for him?

 

[AZChins]

I just took this one of Candie... She's sort of in the lead at the moment in my mind. I haven't had the chance to take them out of the cage, fluff them up and take proper pictures...but you get the idea with her here. She has a stripe of black that goes all the way around her back, one pink front paw and one black one and black on her tail. Definitely TOV...and she's very big and squishy.

 

[aznmexaggie]

He would also need a very large girl who could bear his offspring since he's such a big chin. Maybe Candi? Has she been bred before?

 

[AZChins]

She's a virgin. One of the ones I have been growing out, but haven't put into breeding because of all the rescues.

Here's a couple pictures. It turned to complete chaos because everyone woke up, I really do have to take them out and get good pictures of them sometime.

I got a decent picture of Leesa, the black velvet...and the beige girl was not cooperating. Why does everyone want to eat the camera all the time?

I was looking at the pictures...Leesa must have moved ALL her hay cubes to where she was sleeping. Are all my chins insane?

 

[3CsMommy]

I'll be interested to follow Buju on this episode of "The Bachelor" to see what advice you'd get. This looks like a great learning opportunity.

My instincts would lead me (with my severely limited knowledge) to avoid the Pink White b/c she's so little comparatively. Maybe a 700-800g male, but 1,000's pretty much a Sherman tank. If you introduce him to the beige your chances, if I remember biology class properly, of a homo beige from that pairing are 25%, which wouldn't be a bad surprise from a long shot breeding in the first place. Either way, the kits would be beige carriers or hetero beige and likely of good size to cross back with a beige/carrier down the line. (Of course all this depends on confirmation. What are their titles, if any?)

 

[AZChins]

I need to pull the beige out of her cage and get some good pictures of her. She's actually very nicely veiled and her color is good. I need to take a better picture of Buju, as well. I took that other picture with my old Mavica...and the color wasn't always that great if the natural light wasn't bright enough.

 

[aznmexaggie]

If you introduce him to the beige your chances, if I remember biology class properly, of a homo beige from that pairing are 25%, which wouldn't be a bad surprise from a long shot breeding in the first place.

The Tower beige is a dominant mutation and cannot be carried. An animal heterozygous for beige will be beige. An animal homozygous for beige will be a lighter, creamier beige (homo beige). Buju does not carry the beige gene even though his mother was beige. If he were paired with a hetero beige girl, there is a 50% chance of hetero beige offspring and 50% chance of standard.

 

[3CsMommy]

Buju does not carry the beige gene even though his mother was beige. If he were paired with a hetero beige girl, there is a 50% chance of hetero beige offspring and 50% chance of standard.

And apparently I *don't* remember biology class properly. For some reason I was thinking of co-dominance and the eye color experiments we did. :wacko:

 

[RDZCRanch]

like I said in chat, he's a lighter standard so I would not put him to a black or an ebony. I wouldn't want him with a standard either.

I think the TOV white would be the best bet.

 

[Riven]

I would go with the white or the beige. Or if it makes the decision easier send the TOV girl here... then it will reduce your choices making it easier for you to decide!

And I wouldn't be so surprised if you get some babies right away, "old" or not... he's still a man chin!

 

[AZChins]

Yeah...I am leaning towards the TOV white...but the beige girl would be good, too. I could do both, but the girls weren't raised together...so maybe it would be best to just give him one wife. Buju will be happy regardless.

 

[addictedtochins]

I think it's gross putting a pretty young girl with a older man,,,,poor girly. I vote to put another older guy in with him

 

[AZChins]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! You know, I do have a 13 year old male named Raisin. He's very crotchety and slightly nuts...Buju may or may not get along with him. Raisin drives me crazy with his insane demands. He's freakin 13 and he insists on getting out all the time, he can't really jump as well as a young chin but he thinks he can. (There was this Seinfeld episode where some old men think they can lift heavy things, just like Raisin...)

Buju deserves a squishy young girly though...he's gentle and sweet. He'd be a good MUCH older husband to Candie. He's very chubby and fun to cuddle.

 

[addictedtochins]

Last time I remember when I was young I didn't want a chubby old guy to cuddle with...not even if he was rich!

 

[AZChins]

But Buju has kind eyes and a sweet disposition...