Are the Amish hiding puppy mills?

[Encantadora]

This is kind of long, but WOW... shocking and sad

http://www.examiner.com/x-1911-Dall...3d30-Are-Amish-communities-hiding-puppy-mills

 

[threewingedfury]

thats absolutely disgusting...

'd love to do this to the idiots who torture these poor animals..

 

[alli713]

I don't think that they're really hiding it, here in Wisconsin, there's a large group of Amish who run puppy mills and they hold auctions where people can go and buy the dogs. Really sad actually.

I guess I just never understood the point of it. It's not like Amish can buy fancy things with the money they earn from the breeding of the dogs, so I guess I don't really see the point.

 

[tunes]

What made you think the Amish were kind to animals anyway? Ever watch them beat the snot out of their horses or drive them to town in the freezing rain, on ice, and them leave them heaving and sweating outside the store?

I used to live dead in the middle of Amish country in Ohio. There were pedophiles, wife beaters, animal abusers. People seem to think they are these benevolent, ayuk, country folk who are all nice and backward. Trust me, they aren't. They have the same crap we do. This doesn't surprise me one little bit.

I'm not even going to read it. Stuff like this just makes me physically ill.

 

[InkedupTara]

We have a huge issue with it here in PA too! I am not sure why they should be above the law and allowed to treat animals so badly! I agree, I would love to do to them what they do to those horses, cats, dogs, etc....

 

[eroomlorac]

Yes, I will not read it, either. And please don't quote the disgusting things on the open forum. I choose not to read it so I can sleep at night and reading how they scar the dogs throats gives me haunting thoughts. If someone chooses to read it, that's fine, but I choose not to. I just hope their God deals with them justly when they die.

 

[3CsMommy]

No, they're not hiding them, they're doing it right out in plain sight because they're "better" than even their own holy book that clearly outlines the creation of humanity as a God's plan for his other creations (animals and plants) to be well-stewarded. They're smart enough to figure out how to get around paying taxes like most US citizens, but they sure make a darn lot of money from a free market economy, and mill bred dogs are just another product, like quilts and Hex signs.

I live surrounded by them. I've seen what they do to their animals, their children, their women, and it's just the same as the sick-minded individuals in *our* culture, but with fewer consequences because the police rarely get involved. I've even cleaned up a mess or two associated with them. It left me with very little reverence for their culture and society, though since every person is an individual, I still try to be nice no matter how I'm treated in return by these "better" Plain Folks.

 

[eroomlorac]

Also, in the Bible it says "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me." I interpret 'the least of my brothers' as the animals. I would no sooner torture an animal as I would never torture a human. I have a sad feeling my two small dogs are from puppy mills as they were both bought from a pet shop that sells lots of dogs. When their original owners didn't want them any more, they were given to me. They are adorable dogs but I often wonder where they came from originally. The pug has spine problems but the papillon appears healthy so far.

 

[Chinniechantel]

I am really shocked and saddened by this. I never have expereinced personal encounters with any Amish, but did see them quite often in WI when I went to college. I worked at a portrait studio in the front of walmart- and would always see the Amish come, park their horses (come to think of it, it was freezing and sleeting and the horses were outside alone...) and buy rice and stuff in bulk. They would stare at me like I was the devil back there taking the pictures (or souls I guess it is to them) of little kids. Pretty amuzing if I have to say so myself. I thought they were actors or something at first, it is very odd to see that kind of clothing.

I have to admit I was one of the people who assumed they were kind and country ayuk folk. I guess I didn't give it much thought, and you know what assuming does...but I am very sad and can't bring myself to read the article either. We are all people, but to use religion to harm animals and people is just beyond wrong. Their God does have a special place in **** for them.

 

[tunes]

I live surrounded by them. I've seen what they do to their animals, their children, their women, and it's just the same as the sick-minded individuals in *our* culture, but with fewer consequences because the police rarely get involved. I've even cleaned up a mess or two associated with them. It left me with very little reverence for their culture and society, though since every person is an individual, I still try to be nice no matter how I'm treated in return by these "better" Plain Folks.

Thank goodness! Someone who has had the same experiences I have. When we lived by Mohican State Park in Ohio, this one guy used to constantly come to our house and try to get IN the door. He was trying to buy pop, can by can. Then he'd want to know if he could use the phone (they won't HAVE one, but they sure don't mind using yours). One day this truck pulled up with three guys in it with guns. They came to the door and asked if we wanted them to clear the pigeons out of the barn. I said, noooo, but gee, thanks for bringing your guns around. They actually used that as an excuse to warn me against the guy who kept knocking on the door asking to use the phone and buy pop. Apparently, he was a known pedophile. Gee, too bad "our" laws couldn't touch them. The next time that guy showed up, lemme tell ya, by the time I was done with him, he never showed up again.

Not ALL are bad I'm sure, but I've had run ins with many who are brutal to their women and kids. I've seen women that looked like they went through 10 rounds in a boxing ring in an Amish store with her husband standing protectively over her "just in case" you might try and talk to her. I almost ripped a guy's throat out over it. He told me to leave their store and never come back, that women "like me" had no place in a Godly world. Uhhhh-huh.

Carol - I will delete that part of the post. I agree with you. I don't want to read it and seeing the quote gave me nightmares.

 

[mishellyshel]

i agree with tunes...........i can't even read it because i WILL make myself physically ill.
i am such a pet lover and to know i cant save everyone one of them makes me sad.

 

[Encantadora]

If it makes you ill, then please don't read the link. But I think it's so important to know what is happening to we can work together and find a way to change it.

 

[Courtney]

I have no personal experience with the Amish, but I have learned that it's nearly impossible to change people who don't want to be changed. If they believe what they're doing is godly and right, they'll defend their right to carry on. Petitions, media attention and whatever else normal people can do won't sway their decision, as they are "godly" and "better beings".

 

[alli713]

I think that until pet stores stop buying puppy mill dogs, then people will continue to produce them. Because let's be honest, it's not really an average person walking down to a puppy mill and picking out a dog there, if they did, they wouldn't ever buy one from them once they see the condition they're in.

So really, it's the pet stores that need to be dealt with first. I posted a thread earlier showing how Petland was facing a lawsuit for buying puppymill dogs, I think this is a step in the right direction and will hopefully lead to others being prosecuted.

And I do agree with Peggy, that they have the same problems as the rest of society except in some ways it's worse because they believe in not going to the police. So if a woman is raped, they are told not to go to the police because God will deal with that person. It is definitely not the right way to go about things at all, and leaves many people to suffer for it. I feel so sorry for many of the women who have no choice because they are taught from a young age that they don't question their husband/father and those in charge.

 

[Snickers]

The special that Oprah had showed the Amish people hiding the dogs. I taped that showed when it first came on.

If people stop buying from pet stores there weren't be puppy mills.

 

[starleomach]

I used to live near Amish in Ny. There are some good people and bad people. We bought our first horse from one, but they were a very nice family and you saw it in the care they gave the horses and other animals. But I have also seen some horrible things from the Amish growing up around animal auctions held once a month. bringing horses to the kill pens because the drove them to th point where a 6 year old has bleeding nose from wear, they use animals like tools. use them up until they can't do anything anymore. Squire (my amish buggy horse) has been with us now since I was 12 and here is where he will be for the rest of his life. We were lucky when we got him they hadn't yet broken his spirit. He is dead tame but has a spark of fiestyness. Often there horses just seem dead inside. Broken completly

 

[Sandi]

How sad....

 

[3CsMommy]

I can't tell most of my stories, but this one ended well and is actually sort of funny looking back, but this is the kind of thing even the kinder owners sometimes put their animals through. (Nothing graphic. No injuries or anything. Just a really, really scary moment.)

The part of town my college was in gets very icy during the winter, but most of the grocery stores, etc. are on the up hill side of town, which means there were lots of buggies and wagons up and down the main road in all weather. One night there'd been a bad winter storm and the main road was a sheet of black ice. I was waiting to cross the icy street after breakfast when a buggy came down the hill, going pretty darn quick.

Just then, the light turned red.

Know how in cartoons when someone's about to fall off a cliff the animators have their eyes pop out in that terrified "OH $#!&" look? Picture that on the face of the Amish buggy driver, all 4-5 pedestrians at the intersection (whipping out our phones because we were sure that horse was going down) *and* the horse as the poor animal tried to stop and slid through the intersection on all four hooves. Once he was off the ice, the horse got the buggy back under control with no injuries, but he was foaming and blowing like he'd just run for the roses. I came surprisingly close to wetting my pants that day...

(If you care to commiserate, Tunes, I went to college in Ashland County OH and now I live in Mercer County PA. Feel free to PM.)