Cute babies! If mom is a true chocolate I'd like to see pics of her as well! It may be able to help some people who think they have "chocolates" but actually just have dark tans...
Is there a link or something so I can see the difference between a chocolate and a tan?
Is there a link or something so I can see the difference between a chocolate and a tan?
True chocolates are so rare to even breed for that very few people around today have even seen a picture, let alone seen one in person.
Were they blowing on the fur in the pictures? This sounds like a different type of ebony mutation, similar to the mahogany. I'd lay money that the shaft was a different hue than the tip. Even "homo" ebonies have different shaft hues. If you have one that is 100% all shiny black down to the root please take a picture of it against some white printer paper and post it.This chinchilla was SO dark brown that it looked like an extra dark ebony until they blew into the fur and you could see the brown.
At 7 months this guy was so active he was getting hair rings with his buddies so I gave him a couple of standard ladies. Judging by the amount of missing fur they've been teaching him to be polite about his manly activities. His color has turned out very nice.
That's why I take pictures of mine in full sunlight. Do you have any of yours in the sun? I'd love to see them.And that one was so dark if you weren't looking at it in good lighting you would be able to tell it was actually brown...
One parents was an x drak eb and the other was also genetically a chocolate, she's very dark, maybe 1 shade or 1.5 shades off of being the darkest chocolate i've ever seen
So two breeders with upwards of thousands of chins over their lifetimes have only seen what they consider a "true chocolate" once each - that to me is a sighting of a different mutation entirely.Tara - Chris Woods said that in all her years of owning and breeding chins, she saw what might be classified a chocolate once. There are dark tans, even extra dark tans if you will, but not a true chocolate as would be defined by most people.
Not sure who's seen tons. Yes, I've been working in this color, and with this color as the goal for more than a decade (eegads, we're getting old!). Everything I breed is a process of getting better tan/whites. XXXXXxxxxXXxxx dark tans (Chocolates) are sometimes a byproduct of that. I've gotten three. That's it - three that have no visual shading. What's real cool is when you cross them and wade into the XXXXxxxxXXX dark homo beige tans. I don't discuss those in public because of genetics. Kind of along the lines of viophires. Very taboo.If these little buggers are so common that someone who has never attended a show has seen tons of them and you are breeding them, where are they in regards to showing?
Now you know that isn't true for MCBA, they've got the corner market on bizarre terms!just like there are no eb/whites, white/violets, reverse mosaics, panda mosaics, upside down polka dotted mosaics, etc. It's a tan or a white.
It does, my first and last show were MCBA and I've been to 10 or so, that's why I'm not hard line or strict. Only been to two ECBC shows due to the drive distance - they're only held in CA and they do not like colors. The bulk of my sorting knowledge comes from judges who tolerate colors better than some of their ECBC counterparts. MCBA was created for that reason.My apologies on the MCBA rules, but really, that wouldn't apply to you would it?
Only been to two ECBC shows due to the drive distance - they're only held in CA and they do not like colors. The bulk of my sorting knowledge comes from judges who tolerate colors better than some of their ECBC counterparts.
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