Color mistery

[Brightstarchins]

Okay, this is a first for me, I am stumped about this one.

I had a male baby born that looks 100% like a pink-white, but here comes the mistery, his Sire is a homo-beige and his Dam is a hetero-beige. They have had several litters together in the past and naturally all they ever had were beige or homo beige babies.
When this male was first born I was surprised but figured he would darken into a beige with time, but he was born May 5th, which makes him almost 8 weeks now, and he is still white. He has very slight beige tipping, but that is also normal for a pink-white.

Did anyone else ever have a pink-white fall out of two beiges, or had one still turn into a beige as they mature?

Claudia

 

[AZChins]

I had a standard and a beige produce what looked like a pink white once...I couldn't figure that out and the baby NEVER darkened to this day.

I don't know if your little guy will darken! That's so strange...

Do you have pictures of him? (I just had to ask, mostly because I want to see a cute, fuzzy, young chinchilla...)

 

[Brightstarchins]

Lol Susan, I should have known better than not to take pictures, I will do that asap .

His grand sire is a tov pink-white, but that should be irrelevant since the white gene does not carry. I really don`t know about this one....

Claudia

 

[starleomach]

he could be a very very pale homo beige...I have seen that. There are also some cases of non white animals producing a white doesn't happen often but is can happen. I have a genetic theory on that but I won't get into it as it makes much more sense in my head than written out

 

[Spoof]

When you do a lot of homo beige x beige x homo beige in a line you will get pale babies, white babies and babies with white rings around ears/eyes/legs/tail or white patches.

When bred to a standard they'll throw normal hetero beige kits. It has something to do with crossing that much beige. The strange thing about them is they never change color as they age.

 

[Brightstarchins]

I have to apologize for the horrible lighting in these pics, for some reason everything has a green hue. I think a new camera is in order soon, lol.

In some of these pics you can see his beige tipping better than if you see him in person.

Claudia

 

[Brightstarchins]

His Sire is the only homo beige in the pedigrees, on the Dams side the only colors recorded are the grandparents, beige and standard.
On the Sires side it`s beige, standard, pink-white, one black-velvet and the tov pink-white.

Claudia

 

[kathiva]

Wow, he looks pretty white, it is hard to determine how he turned out to come white like that, but also, I noticed that on chins.com, they were selling a white mosaic chin for $7,000 US, because it came from 2 standards, so I guess it can happen, also, wasn't it like that the all the other colors came out actually from standards? such as beige, white, black, etc.?

 

[AZChins]

WOW!! He really is white. Maybe he is just a super pale homo beige, but he's very white. The little beige spots on his face really make him look like a pink white.

 

[RDZCRanch]

He looks like he could be a very very very very light homo beige to me. Like Tara said, if you cross enough beige you'll sometimes show up with a kit that light. It would be interesting to see what he produces with a standard.

 

[Riven]

Do you have photos of the male? Are you sure the male is not a dark pink white?

I can't really tell much with the green there... but I can see the tipping. I had a chin I thought was a homo beige, turned out she was a pink white, she barely had a bit of white on the tip of her tail, some older ranchers caught it at a show.

Jim actually kept that female, and she has produced white kits for him, I recently asked him about it.

 

[Brightstarchins]

Here are some pics of the Sire. Again Nicole, sorry for the green hue, looks like I need a new camera.

Claudia

 

[clarinuto]

I've been very interested in this thread and following the discussion of what this mystery kit is, but for some reason I cannot see the pictures... I've tried both google chrome and internet explorer... neither of which is showing the pics... in other threads, i see pictures just fine... any one know what is up with this?

 

[Spoof]

I think the database croaked. It had earlier. First case of greenpictureitis I've seen take down a database... You really should get that camera calibrated, green photos are dangerous you know.

 

[clarinuto]

greenpictureitis... I should have known!! Makes perfect sense LOL

 

[RDZCRanch]

Is this the sire?

http://brightstar-chinchilla.com/mychins/displayimage.php?album=random&cat=3&pos=-19

 

[Riven]

I don't see the sire pic. But if it is Flash and Holly I'd check her tail real good, lol.
Otherwise I see Flash is from Cathy who has a large selection of Doug Wilson's chins, and if I remember correctly I believe I was told that the Goldbars came from animals out of Doug Wilson's lines...

 

[Brightstarchins]

Tara, shhh, noone is supposed to know that I was the one bringing down the forum, lol.

Flash is the Sire, but Holly is not the Dam, the Dam is a hetero-beige bred by Bob Smith. She is not pictured on my Website, it needs to be updated.

Nicole, Goldbars, hmmm, maybe I need to hang on to this little guy for a while longer.

Claudia

 

[Riven]

Send him up this way... the best way to know would be to breed him and see what you get! I've got spare cages... lol

 

[Megan]

I can't see any of the pictures either... so you aren't alone, Clairinuto