white compared to mosiac

[TRIZZYPBALLR]

When comparing a white to a mosiac for breeding purposes, when there is a pure white parent, do they have a better chance to produce a pure white baby? It just seems that a mosiac would probably more than likely produce another mosiac instead of a white?

 

[tunes]

If you mean a "****" white, there is no such thing. Pure white would not really apply. There are mosaics, which can happen with a mosaic and a standard, a mosaic and an ebony, a mosaic and a violet, etc. There are also pink whites, which have the beige gene.

Are you maybe thinking of a pink white? They are usually white with pink ears, but they can also have markings just like a mosaic.

 

[Mt. Zion Chins]

Just for your information One should NEVER breed ANY white to ANY white (all mosaics are whites - even pink-whites) . It defeats the purpose of breeding for quality (which I am sure you know SHOULD be the purpose of breeding)

 

[Spoof]

When comparing a white to a mosiac for breeding purposes, when there is a pure white parent, do they have a better chance to produce a pure white baby?

Some lines do. The best way to find one is to find a breeder that has pure whites ask about the lineage and how many whites they throw. I know Ronda had a couple males that threw a very high percentage pure white babies.

Also, if you want suppress markings in a heavily marked line the best way to go about it is the **** pinkwhite route. With them the markings rarely if ever show and they have crystal-white fur if you get a good clear beige strain. **** pinkwhite = homozygous for beige, + white, so you'd breed a pinkwhite with a beige or **** beige.

 

[TRIZZYPBALLR]

If you mean a "****" white, there is no such thing. Pure white would not really apply. There are mosaics, which can happen with a mosaic and a standard, a mosaic and an ebony, a mosaic and a violet, etc. There are also pink whites, which have the beige gene.

Are you maybe thinking of a pink white? They are usually white with pink ears, but they can also have markings just like a mosaic.

Im sorry, I dont believe I said that very clearly. I am aware that you cannot get **** white chins, only hetro white chins because of the "lethal gene". What I ment to say is if you are trying to produce whites instead of mosiacs, do you have a better chance with a white parent instead of a mosiac parent, or is it all just luck? If you breed a mosiac to a grey, if you do get a mosiac kit, is it probably going to have even less white than the mosiac parent?

 

[tunes]

There is pretty much no way to know. Whites are weird. You can start out with a chin completely gray and they will end up white, or with stripes, etc. I don't know of anyone who can guarantee how a white is going to turn out.

 

[Riven]

I have a white that produces heavily marked kits, and she's pure white.

I think a large part of the factor is the other animal. The grey contributes to the pattern as well, if you prefer less markings then I'd use a lighter grey, more darker.

 

[Jaina_Organasolo]

My white has quite distinctive markings on him, these include a pure white stripe, a standard spot on one leg and some spats. He is still young, 8 months so I know he'll keep on changing. What I do know is that his dad was a dark standard and his mum was pretty much pure white all over. Apart from his mums massive ears, he doesn't resemble her much at all.

 

[Vyxxin]

I was going to say the exact same thing that Riven said. I believe it DOES also depend on the non-white parent. However, I also feel that if you get a chinchilla from a consistent type like (ie- white parent and white grandparent) there is a greater chance of pure white offspring. Likewise, if you get a chin from a long line of mosaics, it'll be more likely to throw mosaics rather than pure whites.

This is based off of personal experience. In all my years of breeding (8+yrs now) I have rarely (if ever to my recollection) produced a pure white kit. All of mine have been white with dark guard hairs and a very few mosaics. My pairs all consist of white w/dark guard hairs paired to dark to extra dark pure standards. All of them. Period.

If I had the desire to produce solid white offspring, I would attempt to locate a solid white parent with many solid whites in it's pedigree THEN pair it to a lighter phase standard with many lighter phase standards in it's background. I feel that darks and extra dark standards tend to throw a lot of veiling in white kits. JMHO.

 

[Kansas City Chinchillas]

I agree with Vyxxn and some others. I have a white male who produces pure whites and whites with a grey mask over the eyes when placed with light standard females. It all depends upon how dominant the white's veiling genes are.