naturegirl240
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TOV's. How can you tell if they are TOV or not? Can anyone please post pictures to show me what they are? Thanks
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2nd picture is a TOV animal, She's a Black Velvet
2nd picture is a TOV animal, She's a Black Velvet
VolunteerChin22
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Tov means touch of velvet and is a gene that is either expressed or not...meaning you don't have tov carriers. This is a black velvet/tov the black tov is a standard with black veiling - beige tov's have the veiling similar but are dark brown veiling on top of beige. Tov's also usually have paw stripes. Ebonies, violets, sapphires and whites can also be tov too.
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naturegirl240
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how could you tell if a white is TOV? thanks for the info BTW
Dolyphinm
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While on the subject of TOV. I heard from a girl at work today the breeder she got her chin from had black velvets with red eyes? How on earth does that happen cuz I didn't think that was possible unless its a beige/pink white chin.
VolunteerChin22
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You would have to know the genetics of the parents...It would have to come out of a white to velvet pairing...Even then, it can be difficult to tell if the kit was a true tov (and not just a mosaic) unless you paired it with a standard and the pair threw tov kits - meaning you got black velvets out of the suspected tov white and the standard. That is why some people list white tov's as "possible tov"
naturegirl240
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kk thanks a bunch!
starleomach
Dawnna's Keeper
black velvet with pink eyes??? Maybe they have a brown velvet and don't know what to call it
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Rickman
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Then you have the "sneak-up-on-you" TOV, as I've had 3 beiges turn TOV at about 6-8 months of age!
Seeing them every day, you don't notice the changing going on, until it's real obvious!
Seeing them every day, you don't notice the changing going on, until it's real obvious!
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Diamond Bar Chins
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also TOV will show up from your **** or extra dark ebs because you cant see. its genetically there and phenetically but that animal is pure black all the way around and you dont see it.. This is where breeding and genetics makes chinchilla breeding so much fun and why I love it... and why pedigree's are sooooo important
naturegirl240
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Yeah that is what I basically needed to know, how would you tell if a chin's a TOV when they don't show it. I am familiar with black and brown velvets. I also know about the lethal **** TOV factor. Thanks everyone again
naturegirl240
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Ok say you bred a **** ebony with a black velvet. Would you call them a possible TOV?
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Chinniechantel
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If the baby is a very dark eb, then most likely yes.
Dolyphinm
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The girl said they were blacks. Can browns possibly be that dark they look black?
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Rickman
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That would be considered a chocolate; every hair shiny dk. brown to the skin. Pretty rare!
BTW - I once had someone with a "red eyed dk. ebony female" that wanted to trade, but when it came to the day, she backed down, saying it "was only in certain lighting!" I think it was a "camera flash" thing!
BTW - I once had someone with a "red eyed dk. ebony female" that wanted to trade, but when it came to the day, she backed down, saying it "was only in certain lighting!" I think it was a "camera flash" thing!
Dolyphinm
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I thought chocolate was all the way around? These had white bellies and were seen in person at the breeder.
aznmexaggie
Chinchilla Chateau
A chocolate is a chinchilla which is solid-colored shiny drk. brown over the entire body, including the belly. It carrries both ebony and beige genes.
The chinchilla in question has a white belly and looks like a black velvet but has pink eyes, correct?
I have a black velvet who has brown eyes which look almost auburn-red in certain lights but it isn't the type of red tint that I see in my beiges. Are the irises actually pink in this chinchilla?
The chinchilla in question has a white belly and looks like a black velvet but has pink eyes, correct?
I have a black velvet who has brown eyes which look almost auburn-red in certain lights but it isn't the type of red tint that I see in my beiges. Are the irises actually pink in this chinchilla?
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Rickman
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I'd really like to see a picture of that chin!!!
Chin_Pig
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i have a question about TOV white chins
i have a chin that was commented on at a show that he looked a lot like a TOV chin.
he is for sure an Eb. White and his mom was is Light Tan with BV in her background ( i think she looks TOV to me)
this is Amigo:
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i have a chin that was commented on at a show that he looked a lot like a TOV chin.
he is for sure an Eb. White and his mom was is Light Tan with BV in her background ( i think she looks TOV to me)
this is Amigo:
*Edited to make post shorter by doubling up pictures*
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