Super agressive male

[Riven]

I'm looking for suggestions on a super aggressive male.

It would be extremely detrimental for me not to the use this male, he literally is irreplaceable without going to very, very great expenses.

The problem is... he beats up the females, sometimes very badly. I'm assuming that he beats them up while breeding them because I've been checking and when he beats them up they are in heat.



Background:

Younger male ( over a year I'd have to look up his DOB for sure though)
Been shown
Never been bred before here
Doesn't bother females other than when they're in heat
Spends a lot of time in the run, doesn't snuggle or sit with a female normally
Not proven for sure here yet, but some of the girls he's been with may be bred, he's only been in breeding here less than 3 months.


I currently have him separated, and today I clipped his whiskers and am debating on moving him to a 3 hole run with only two girls, leaving one hole empty for him to house in... I'm open to any suggestions.

 

[addictedtochins]

Can you put a breeding collar on him leaving the females able to leave when he gets too rough?

 

[tunes]

I can't help you with that one Nicole. When I had that happen with a male, I tried him with 1 more female, and when he beat her up too, he was gone. He went to a pet only home. I just would never trust him again, and he was a gorgeous extra dark eb male, so I felt that one a lot.

The reverse collar situation sounds interesting, but the problem is, usually when they start beating them down they get on their backs and the female may not have a chance to get out of the jump before he beats her half (or to) death.

I don't mess around with overly aggressive chins. If they beat up a mate, they are tried 1 more time under extremely close supervision with a different mate, and if they turn on those as well - they are gone.

 

[RDZCRanch]

You could try him in a large colony cage with maybe two females and a LOT of tubes and houses. This way the females can hide if he's being way too aggressive. I've had females in colony cages stick their heads in tubes while being mated to avoid the ear nibbling as well.

 

[Spoof]

There is a chance that you could adjust his attitude by grouping him with some males for a bit. I've had success with unconfident breeders doing that, never tried an aggressive one.

I don't care how irreplaceable they are, from my experience that type of aggression is passed from generation to generation. I can't afford to replace females and it's random. One day you may lose one, or he may kill the entire run. The ironic part is you only have one surviving kit, breed him to save the line and he produces fine. Then you get an awesome grandson who does phenomenal at show, nice temperament - stick him in with females and he might kill the kits and females randomly or it might be a granddaughter that does it. Maybe he only has two you can put him with - they pump out 20 kits, and then it continues....

Then some other poor breeder buys your awesome show animal and looses good breeding stock.

I actually have a list of lines that I stay away from for that reason.

Good luck! Would love to hear your second/third generation experiences if any kits survive. )

 

[starleomach]

I had a very aggressive standard male I have had some sucess with an open run loose girls and a collared male. But in the end he went to a pet home it wasn't worth the hassle.

 

[chinsNdobermans]

I don't feel that I'd mess with it. But I have such a small herd, my females are way too valuable...

 

[Vyxxin]

I've had the exact same thing happen. Male put into breeding around 14mos. Very nice animal put with a string of females. Got along fine with all females, though not overly friendly with any particular one. Then when a female came into heat he'd beat on 'em. It was generally mild until one day...he killed a female. He was removed. There is no male worth more than one of my females. Period. Aggressive females are one thing, they can usually be tolerated. But aggressive males are intolerable. That's my .02 sorry it's not more helpful.