Color identification - chinny babies with white tipped tail

[Anne]

Hi chinny friends,

I got twin babies just delivered by an ebony chinchilla mother four days ago. Chinny father is a TOV white mosaic. Both babies have tails with half in black color and bottom half in white color. Overall body color looks grey with subtle patches of dark n white spots and bands. will standard grey have tail with half white tip? Are the twins standard grey or white mosaic?

It will be nice if experienced chinny friends can share your knowledge and views on this. Thanks.

 

[Kylelemler]

Looks like you have yourself two mosaics!!!

 

[Dreamlite]

2 mosaics

 

[Basket_of_Chinchillas]

One looks like a White Ebony and another looks Mosaic (depending on the pedigree, sometimes the only way to distinguish White Ebs from a Mosaic, Mosaics being a white x standard and white ebs being white x eb showing the ebony gene rather than the standard gene), based on the pics, but if they are both more grey in person than I'd go with Mosaic. Super cute

 

[EMSChins]

Mosaic is a description of the phenotype not the genotype. If it is white with any splotch of color at all it is described as a mosaic (which can be any color...gray,beige,violet,sapphire,ebony...), not just standard x white.

If there is an ebony parent then yes, they are white/ebony mosaics.
Sometimes mosaics are born quite dark and their pattern of color will emerge more clearly as they age. Any white on a chin besides its belly makes it a white by his includes the tip of the tail.

 

[Anne]

Thanks everyone! Now knowing that they should probably be mosaics, I will have to wait and see if they are TOV.

 

[Zoaea]

Pic #2 is just a fluffy ball of cute, grats on the twins. That white tipped tail is a dead give away of the white gene, ebony will have a colored belly. With the white gene mixed in some time the ebony will end up with white tummies but yours look dark enough. As they grow they can change patterns completely, you should keep a picture log. =D

For future litters, standard kits from that couple would always be called carriers of ebony, and they would have a white tummy but not the white gene.

Edit: oh and the ToV gene if present can hide its self in white and ebony chins depending on how dark they are or if they become white all over...

 

[Anne]

Here are images of the parents if that helps:
GaGa is the ebony mother of the twins.
Net Net is the TOV white mosaic father of the twins.

 

[Basket_of_Chinchillas]

Beautiful parents

 

[Snickers]

All your animals are beautiful. I think that the babies will lighten up when they get older.

 

[ChinChiq]

I love the dark bars at the base of the dad's ears! Adorable chinny family!

 

[thepirategrrl]

So adorable!!

 

[Anne]

The twin babies are now 51 days old. I have named them Sing Sing (the one with a white patch on its head) and Song Song. Today they weigh 250g and 230g. Here are more updated pictures. Are they white mosaic or white ebony? I think Sing Sing got the TOV gene from its dad as well.

 

[Anne]

More pics!

 

[Anne]

More

 

[Anne]

That's all for now.

 

[EMSChins]

If there is an ebony parent they are technically white eb's but mosaic is still an acceptable term.

 

[Basket_of_Chinchillas]

Thank you for this insane cuteness overload!

 

[carmen holt]

There are beautiful..

 

[Godins Chinchillas]

They are white ebonies. Very cute!!! I do have a concern though. If the ebony is the mother she is awefully awefully thin. She looks hunch backed. I would not put her in breeding again till she's up to par if that is what your plan is. Just my 2cents.