Chinchilla artificial insemination

[addictedtochins]

The thought popped into my head, has anybody ever tried doing this. The main benefits would be no more cage attacks, probably a more successful fertilization rate, a better idea of conception date, possibly having champion chin semen shipped to your door (with restrictions of course, to insure quality pairings.) What are your thoughts?
ETA you could keep less males and continue breeding a male after it's passing

 

[RDZCRanch]

This has and can be done in chinchillas. From the people I've talked to who have done it...it's not worth it. That run breeding gives better if not the same results.

 

[saphire]

The + points brought up are good, although for myself this would take the pleasure of breeding away somehow, also will loose experiences, knowledge, understanding of their behaviour and possibly more.
I don't know how much the semens costs, but I would be inclined in believing that it could be costly in the long run. I believe a champs semen would not go for cheap.
I like to stick with natures way of doing things.

 

[CJR]

I don't know how well that would work, I don't know anything about breeding, but... how would one harvest the semen?

 

[starleomach]

Like Tab said It was tried and was not that great of an idea. Didn't work out well with all the complications and work involved it was much more benificial to do breeding with animals... If you have great females there really are always great males out there to be bought

 

[sublime5981]

I don't know how well that would work, I don't know anything about breeding, but... how would one harvest the semen?

Knowing that you yourself are a male, are you sure you really want to know?
It involves an electric probe in the anus to stimulate an ejaculation. I've got pictures if you need visuals. Although that might be pushing the boundaries of chinnie porn. :rofl:

 

[addictedtochins]

My chinny boys say that is unnecessary, Just look at my stuffie..all you have to do is ask nicely

 

[Spoof]

It can and is being done and I can put you in touch with someone who sells the equipment. )

It is very, very costly. Males are electroejaculated, like bulls. The difficult part is the impregnation of the females. It's usually used in massive operations, 10,000 plus animals where you may want one male on 500 females for pelt uniformity.

I believe a champs semen would not go for cheap.

The businesses that use these methods don't care about a title, just production and uniformity of the pelt. Shows are really for the smaller breeders to keep them from going barn blind and give more of a uniform standard for pelt sales.

 

[Godins Chinchillas]

That's a whole lot of semen. I didn't realize there was a rancher who had 10,000 animals.

 

[Spoof]

It was mentioned at one of the canadian shows that Canchilla deals in numbers of 25k+ but I'm not sure how current that information is.

Some of the herds overseas are huge. That's where most of this goes, to Canada and Asia.

The process to inseminate the female is so labor-intensive you'd have to have a couple of dedicated people that did just that. Lots of money there.

 

[Olallie]

wow interesting thread. I agree it would be hard to inseminate the female.... also, higher risk for multiple fetus.

 

[sublime5981]

wow interesting thread. I agree it would be hard to inseminate the female.... also, higher risk for multiple fetus.

I think you are confusing artificial insemination with in vitro fertilization. They aren't placing fertilized eggs into the female, just sperm.
I'm sure there could be multiple litters if they didn't think it took and did it again but, I don't think it would be that different from natural breeding. Unless you consider the fact that a female can try to stop a male from breeding her but, doesn't have much choice with AI. :hmm:

 

[cindyv3737]

My chinny boys say that is unnecessary, Just look at my stuffie..all you have to do is ask nicely

I'm sure their stuffies would not mind being left alone for a little bit. :neener:

 

[Olallie]

Oh yes, i guess i did confuse that. haha as you can tell not really experienced in the whole trying to get pregnant thing. But it would be a health risk if the female knows she shouldn't get pregnant yet is still AI'ed.

 

[Vyxxin]

I too looked into this a bit ago when I had a great male that was just plain out lazy. Anyhow, that was the conclusion: not cost effective for smaller herds (by smaller I mean under a few thousand), chin semen is not viable for very long (I believe I recall), and females are not easily fertilized in this method.

Furthermore, it'd be most cost efficient (for smaller herds) just to purchase the male. Finally, the ONLY reason (I concluded) to use AI would be to (as mentioned) promote pelt uniformity within a pelting herd. And even then, I wouldn't think (with the female genetics involved as well as random genetic inheritance) that they would even be THAT uniform.

And, as mentioned, they ARE still working on AI (and have been for a very long long time) in other countries. Last I heard there were labs in South America working on it.

 

[ann1]

Wow what a weird conversation. Lol
poor little males....ouch....