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Xiaosong

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Hi!

I just discovered this forum about a week ago and it is really great. I've been googling stuff and reading other forums but I like how everything is contained here in one place.

I have some quick questions about my new chinchillas although this post ended up quite long. Just to warn you.

So background... I got two 3 month old female chinchillas about 2 weeks ago from someone on craigslist. One is a hetero biege (grey) and one is a **** biege (white). My girlfriend and I just named them Lily and Penny this weekend and they are settling in nicely.

The person who was breeding them had been handling them since they were born so they are both pretty friendly, although the white was the runt and is a bit more skittish. However, the grey one would climb onto my hand and then jump onto my shoulder pretty much from the 2nd day that I had her. Both of them came to the door of the cage when I came home and would stand up against the cage door. When we had company over for my girlfriend's birthday, the grey one would even jump up onto strangers.

After having them for about a week, I noticed that the grey one was jumping around a lot and chewing on the bars of the cage. They are currently in a modified rat manor cage that I got from petco although I will be switching to something larger when they get bigger. I assumed she was bored as my order from chinworld had not come in yet with the new wheel and I noticed that she would jump onto my shoulders and climb onto my arms to try to jump down to the kitchen counter that runs next to their cage.

However, after the first week, the grey one has become less social, seems to sleep more and a bit more skittish in the cage, and does not really climb onto my hands or jump onto my shoulders from her cage anymore. However, the poop for the grey one and white one look normal and they are both eating and drinking fine.

A few things have changed in their environment almost at the same time (all about a week ago) and I was hoping you would be able to help me narrow it down what caused the behavior change in the grey chinchilla the past week.

1) The food:
After having them for a week, my order from chinworld came on that Friday. I had order them a flying saucer wheel, as well as Mazuri feed and blue cloud dust. I was trying to do a gradual switch over from their original feed that I got when I picked them up to Mazuri. The original feed had raisins and dried bananas in it that I would pick out so they just had the pellets but since I was running out of it, I was only able to mix it and the Mazuri for about 4 days before I ran out and have to switch exclusively to Mazuri, which was probably on last Monday or Tuesday. Their poops didn't seem to change too much (maybe gotten a bit bigger) and after a day or two of switching exclusively to Mazuri, they went back to eating their food like before. They had have timothy hay the whole time in their cage for them to eat at their leisure.

2) The flyer saucer wheel:
After about a day, the grey one figured out how to use the flyer saucer and now runs on it a pretty decent amount. She no longer chews on the cage, but instead on the pine ledges and apple sticks that I ordered from chinworld. However, I am wondering if she is tiring herself out with the wheel, which is why she is no longer jumping to come out of the cage at night when I come home and is sleeping more.

3) No water for about a 24 hour period a week ago.
Right after I rearranged the cage and added the flyer saucer wheel and the new ledges, their old water bottle wouldn't stop leaking so I purchased a super pet chew proof water bottle from petco. I didn't realize until the next evening when their water level had not moved that the design of the bottle was preventing them from getting any water from the bottle. I quickly gave them both water and they both gulped it down. After reading reviews on petco that stated that you had to cut off the lip inside the water bottle or else the bottle would not dispense any water after whatever was left inside the sprout was gone, I fixed the water bottle following the directions online and they are able to drink from it effortlessly now. I read on chincare.com that they should be fine going without water for up to 24 hours.

4) Strong smell of lilies in my apartment:
For my girlfriend's birthday, she got a lot of flower and the apartment smelled pretty strongly of lilies until I threw some of them away so we only have a small vase of them. Although the smell is not as strong, I still notice it when I come in the door and I wonder if the smell is stressing them out in some way. I do notice that when I let them run around in the hallway outside my apartment versus inside my apartment in a cardboard playpen that I built, they run around more outside and jump onto my arms and climb onto my shoulders more. However, I have only used the playpen twice so that might also be a factor.


So my question is what do you think might be causing the grey one to become less outgoing and more jumpy?
Do you think it is because she has plenty of stuff inside her cage to occupy her that she is no longer bored and tries to come outside the cage to play or do you think the food change, no water for a day or strong flower smell is stressing her out?
Do you think I should only give her access to the flyer saucing wheel at night so she doesn't wear herself out running on it?

Let me know what you think and sorry for the long post!

Thanks,

Xiaosong
 
First off, congrats on your new chins!

As far as the behavior change, it really could be a number of things. Perhaps with all the changes she's just a little stressed out. With time to get used to the new surroundings and things she should get back to her normal activity level.

Or it could also be that she is running off a lot of her energy. Some chins do run a ton on their wheel and tire themselves out and then aren't as excited about out of the cage time. But I have flying saucers in all of my cages and my girls do just fine exercise-wise.

I think, that after only having them for 2 weeks, they're still settling in. Any big changes in their cage and surroundings can stress them out. Some chins can take a month or more to get really comfortable. I would just continue to take it slow. If they don't willingly come out of the cage, don't make them. Just continue to spend time by the cage and talk to them, allowing them to get used to you.
 
Welcome and congrats on your new chins! It sounds like you've done quite a bit of research and are on your way to having a great setup for your girls. Since you've only had them a couple weeks, they're still likely in their adjustment period... sometimes they're a bit more energetic/outgoing during the first few days since they're all excited about their new surroundings, and then they calm down. As long as pee and poop look good, I wouldn't worry about the water or food transition - sounds like it went well overall. As far as the saucer, I'd leave it in full time unless they actually start losing weight from over-exercising, though this doesn't happen often. As far as the strong scents, they do have very sensitive noses, but I can't imagine a couple days of a natural scent would do too much harm - just try to avoid it in the future. Just keep spending quality time with them and I'm sure they'll come around and be more social. Good luck and hope you stick around!
 
Thank you for the great advice!

I have a quick follow up question about catching the chinchillas for playtime.
From what I read here: http://www.chincare.com/HealthLifestyle/RelatingBonding.htm#handling in the "Catching and Handling Your Chinchilla" section, it sounds like I should catch them to let them get used to me and so they can also get exercise.

I usually don't have to chase them around the cage to catch them. I usually just put both of my hands into the cage (for the white one), gently cup my hands around her and bring her out of the cage. Occasionally, she will struggle a bit but as soon as I clear the cage and let her climb onto my arm, she settles down and doesn't try to jump off. The grey one will sometimes just climb onto my hand when I present my hands palm up to her but on the few occasions when I reach in to catch her, she also calms down as soon as I open my hands up as I clear the cage.

As for when playtime is over, I haven't had to chase them to put them back in the cage. Usually I just wait until both of them have climbed onto my shoulders, and then I just stand up and walk over to the cage and hold my hand to the cage door and they will walk down my arm into the cage.

Do you think I should continue to do this or should I leave them in the cage for a bit longer to settle in? I do feed them pellets from my hand at night before I put the food bowl into their cage and neither of them have problems taking food from my hand.
 
Having just gotten your chins, I would never suggest for you to grab them. That can make them afraid of you. You should wait until they're used to you for you to really try and grab them. Is the cage small enough for you to carry it to the playtime area and just let them out? This is what I do with new chins. Or, let them hop into a carrier, shut the door, and transport them to the playtime area that way.

As far as transporting them back to their cage.. Just having them sit on your shoulder is asking for an accident. They could get scared and jump off, and fall to the ground. This can easily result in a broken leg or other injury. When holding, always keep a hold on the base of their tail (next to the body) to prevent them from leaping off and hurting themselves.
 
Ditto the advice you've already been given here. I just wanted to address the colors. From the sounds of your desc (one grey, one white) it sounds like you might have a standard grey and a pink white, rather than a **** and a hetero beige.
 
Another way of getting them back into the cage is to place their dust bath house on the floor, wait for her to jump in and then carry the dust bath house with your chin in it back into her cage.
 
I'll have to try those methods of transporting them. Their cage is a little bit unwieldy to move back and forth each day, but I guess I could try to get them to go into the cardboard boxes that I made for them to run around in during free play and transport them over that way.

Ash, as for the colors, the person that I got them from said that they were **** beige and hetero biege and it seems to hold up from what I can see online. I realize my description of white and grey is not very accurate but since I only have two chinchillas and did not give them names until this week, grey and white worked in the meantime.

I put some pictures of them up here: http://picasaweb.google.com/xiaosong.meng/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCOvXnYub47eLUQ&feat=directlink so you can see what they look like. We have named the **** beige one Lily and the hetero biege one Penny. There is also a picture of the rat manor cage that I have, with some of the sides fitted with plexiglass to keep the poop in the cage. I plan on eventually moving up to a larger sized cage once they grow some more as they are only around 3 months old right now. The yellow wheel in the cage is just bolted to the side of the cage to give them an additional perch, and does not turn.

As you can see from the picture, Lily's right ear is not formed correctly. The person that I got her from said that her brother had bit off part of it, and she is missing part of that ear, but it is also folded up into itself and I think she had trouble bringing it all the way upright.

When I came home from work today, it looked like Penny had peed in the hammock (removed from the cage and not in the picture) and then sat in the pee, because her backside was matted from dried pee and she had a few pieces of poop stuck in her fur. I wiped her down with a baby wipe and dried her, and then let her take a long dust bath but as you can see from the picture here: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...?authkey=Gv1sRgCOvXnYub47eLUQ&feat=directlink, it is still matted, although not as bad as before.

It the matted hair bad for her and is there anything else I can try to make that area look like the rest of her?

Thanks for all of your help. I really appreciate it!
 
Just wanted to make a comment on the cross-arm wheels. Those wheels are too small from chins, and way too dangerous. Please take them out. Otherwise the cage looks good, and I take what I said about the colors back! Just didn't sound right based on your initial description!
 
Just wanted to make a comment on the cross-arm wheels. Those wheels are too small from chins, and way too dangerous. Please take them out. Otherwise the cage looks good, and I take what I said about the colors back! Just didn't sound right based on your initial description!

Good point - especially now that they have a saucer, they won't need that anyway. Also, I can't quite tell, but it looks like you have twine or cord attached to the door - if it's inside the cage, make sure it's a chin-safe kind... 100% sisal rope is usually preferred.
 
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Well, the yellow wheel in the cage does not turn as I affixed it to the side of the cage and they just use it to perch on. The blue one on top of the cage was for the degus that I previously had and I just haven't figured out what to do with it yet so it's just sitting there. The chinchillas don't have access to the blue wheel.

Ash, it is probably my fault describing them as white and grey. However, since we only had two, it worked for us but considering all of the color mutations out there, I realized afterwards that grey and white were probably not the correct descriptions of them.
 
matted fur

Also, does anyone have ideas on how I can help Penny remove the mats from her hair on her backside or should I just leave it and give her more dustbaths in the next few days?

Thanks!
 
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