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Sometimes I worry/feel guilty about potentially not giving my chinny baby enough attention. I felt this way particularly over the holidays because I had been so busy (along with finals right before that). I probably still feel bad because one day I think I intruded on him and he bit me and actually drew blood -- this has never happened before. He's always been a very adventurous, silly little guy. He has snuggled between my legs when I've played with him in an empty room. He's used me as an obstacle for running around in his cage or out in the open. He comes into my lap and let's me pseudo-hug him. I was kind of hurt and upset and unsure on what I'd done. Was he just taking his anger/frustration out on me because I hadn't been around quite as much? Or did I just wake him up at the wrong time?


There was one devastating interaction where I wanted to do a hair ring check on him and look at his testicles (which seemed red and enlarged from one angle). He really did not enjoy this and I was unable to complete the ring check, although his testicles seem to be fine according to what I've read (he had just been running around and was likely warm so they dropped, and I was just unfamiliar with this!). I felt terrible after doing this, he seemed very upset with me. He didn't get snippy, but he did loose fur (which I did not realize until I let him hop back into his cage) and was generally unhappy. He let me scritch him again later that evening, but I felt awful.

I do everything I can to play with him, but he often doesn't want to come out of his cage to play in the open. He gets very huffy, grumbly, and terribly snippy with me when I try to get him to come out and into his carrier. I developed a system when this started happening, which involved me giving him a rose hip any time he successfully got into his carrier on his own or otherwise (which I use to take him to his play room). It was working for awhile, but it has been failing again. I don't know if he is bothered because sometimes the carrier means cleaning time, sometimes it means play time, often it means both. Sometimes I will leave him alone until he calms down and try again. Other times I worry that I am just aggravating him for no reason and let it alone for the night. I worry he's not getting enough exercise or attention regardless. He has a double level Ferret Nation right now and he does laps from the very top shelf to the very bottom, but I still worry. I haven't ordered him a wheel yet since he just turned a year old right before Christmas.

I used to make up for no play time in the room by huddling against his cage and letting him run onto my lap and snuggle very briefly, or to use me as part of his obstacle course and he'd do a lap around my neck, etc. And we'd do that for awhile. But he seems less keen on doing that lately, as well. I've gotten him to do it a little, but not like it used to be.

I feel terrible, like I've done something wrong, but I don't know what. I think he needs more attention but he doesn't always want it (sometimes he does). He used to be much more into the interaction. He also doesn't greet me in the mornings anymore, which makes me sad.

I'm feeling awfully conflicted between understanding him or if I've done something wrong or that he's better off somewhere else if my lifestyle doesn't fit his needs. (I'm actually tearing up a little, to be honest...) My boyfriend currently lives about 3.5 hours away and I drive up there every other weekend (it has been a little bit more than that recently) but this is a temporary situation. Otherwise, I am a full-time student who works, but I am home every evening during the week. He lives in my room at the foot of my bed and I try to talk to him while I do things.

We had some cute interactions over the holidays. In order to try to mend some of this, I played some video games with him. I set myself up next to his cage to play the one, and he seemed like he was watching me play. I also played a handheld game and opened the door to his cage and sat there and he came over to run on me and swipe at the device.

When I recently upgraded his cage with the second level, he started a habit of pulling back the fleece and chewing on the plastic underneath. He drove me absolutely mad -- he turned into a game when he realized he wasn't supposed to be doing it. The moment I stopped caring, he (mostly) stopped trying to chew on the plastic. I have switched the fleece out so that he's unable to pull it out as of yesterday, but for quite awhile he was still pulling it back and every fix I did he ended up circumventing.

Right now, as I said, he's in a two level Ferret Nation. He has a bendy bridge which he seems to like to be partially bent in a curve shape and the rest flat. He also has a wooden house on the other level. He has a cuddle buddy and a variety of shelves. I stuff his hay in a hanging coconut shell with some holes cut out. Other than that, he will only eat poplar, ocotillo, and cholla woods. I stuff a minimal amount of treats in those when I leave over the weekend, just to give him something extra to do while I am gone. He adores vine balls/wreaths/etc., and I try to give those to him as much as I can but he tears right through them (maybe a few hours at best). He's also got the hammock.

Other toys he has ultimately rejected. He doesn't seem to like hanging toys at all, if he even notices them (though he does chew on the coconut sometimes). Regardless, I worry that I'm not giving him enough variety (even though he doesn't seem to want it?).

He used to be incredibly outgoing and friendly. He was more than happy to run up the shoulder of a stranger in the past. I'm worried that I've done something to turn him into a bitter recluse and I don't know what to do.

My very last concern is that he does do the mouth pawing thing, but he has done this since I first got him. He only does it very occasionally, it usually seems to be done when he looks like he's thinking, right before he does something. He's never had any other issues - eyes are fine, no drool, he doesn't let me get a good look at his back teeth or gums but he always feels dry, he's more likely to be a little on the heavy side than under, always eats and runs in his cage, still tearing things to pieces. I had asked in the past and I was told that it could just be a habit of his. Should I be concerned in conjunction with the shyness/hesitancy/grumpiness in behavior?

He only occasionally sleeps with his eyes closed, although he does feel comfortable enough to lay in some silly positions sometimes, especially in his hammock.

Give me the cold hard truth, please.
 
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Is he between the ages of like 8 months and a year and a half? If so he is going through puberty and will be a monster/terror/unsocial thing until he grows out of it. If not then I would be concerned something medical may be going on.
 
He just turned a year old right before Christmas. He'll be 13 months tomorrow. He had a very fitty stage back in early fall, he was absolutely mean. Especially when it came to coming out of the cage -- that's when I started giving him treats for being good and coming out. And like I said, that worked for a little while.

He went to seeming very sweet for some time... and now we're back to this, although it is a little different. He'll still be sweet sometimes, but he's more hesitant of me than he used to be, looking at me more cautiously than I would expect. It makes me think I broke his trust by being away or changing my schedule in conjunction with some of the events I mentioned above.

When he was being bratty in the fall, he still didn't seem that hesitant of me? Except when it was time to come out.
 
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Teenage chins are just stinkers, very hard to deal with. If his weight is stable, poo looks normal, he is eating and drinking normal, its just the hormones IMO, you may actually become his girlfriend soon, your arm that is!
 
I sure hope so, good gracious, I feel utterly awful. I was his girlfriend for a little while, hence the cuddle buddy! That was last spring, I think. His poo looks normal, although it seemed a wee wet yesterday initially (just when you touch it shortly after he's pooped), so I completely changed his current stock of hay (sometimes he pees on it...) and gave him fresh new stuff to be safe, along with some extra handfuls. He went to town on it.

I'm more worried that he may be a tad overweight than under, if anything, just because he won't come out and play! He's definitely bigger than he's ever been, but it has been stable for months.

When does this puberty end?! He's going to break my little heart if he keeps switching his behavior around!
 
Around a year and a half, you sound like you are doing a good job with him, it now just takes patience! Do you have a wheel? If not, that might get him more active and give more entertainment.
 
I was planning on ordering one/hunting one down now that I've upgraded his cage! I've been holding off because I've been hoping to find a decent deal on a metal saucer.
 
I have a 2 yr old female, sweetest thing. My 1 yr old male......ROTTEN. He can be so sweet, at times. He'll hop on my arm, jump to my shoulder and let me rub and pet him for 10 min. He chews at his cage, tries to rip his fleece off of his trays, has actually broken through the plastic without tearing the fleece. He tips his food bowls over, I fill them up, he tips them again. I bought heavyweight bowls, doesn't matter. He'll work at it until they are both tipped over. Sometimes as soon as I fill his bowl, with one swipe of his paw everything is dumped out. Sometimes, I can't wait until he grows out of this stage, but he sure is entertaining. Hang in there.
 
Oh my gosh, the food bowls! Chillermo was doing the same thing sometime last spring. We punched a hole into his food bowl (which is already screwed into the bars of the cage, but it sits in a little metal ring and he still managed to flip it out of that) and took a wire to secure the food bowl into place so he is unable to flip it.

Just ridiculous!
 
I have a 2 yr old female, sweetest thing. My 1 yr old male......ROTTEN. He can be so sweet, at times. He'll hop on my arm, jump to my shoulder and let me rub and pet him for 10 min. He chews at his cage, tries to rip his fleece off of his trays, has actually broken through the plastic without tearing the fleece. He tips his food bowls over, I fill them up, he tips them again. I bought heavyweight bowls, doesn't matter. He'll work at it until they are both tipped over. Sometimes as soon as I fill his bowl, with one swipe of his paw everything is dumped out. Sometimes, I can't wait until he grows out of this stage, but he sure is entertaining. Hang in there.

I use these for my iguana. It's called a Snap'y Fit Food & Water Bowl and it comes in a few sizes. Might be a good idea if you have a chin that turns over his bowls.
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