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View Poll Results: Do you advocate the use of death balls?
Yes, I do use them and recommend them. 3 1.51%
No, I do not use them and would never torture a chin in that way. 188 94.47%
I have no opinion one way or another. 8 4.02%
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:44 PM United States
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Default Death balls

Because I'm increeeedibly tired of people who are clueless assaulting me with their stupidity via pm, I thought I would just throw this out here as a debate. I understand that in order to use the term "death ball" I should soften the blow and include a with it, because apparently they are just fine to use and I am blowing smoke out my arse.

So - Most long timers of this forum and CnQ know the opinion of death balls by people who actually know what they are talking about, but let's put it out there now so that I can stickie this conversation and just link to it from here on out.

Please choose your answer from above and if you want to post something, that would be great too.

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Old 06-14-2010, 04:47 PM United States
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I would like to suggest to any owner who thinks these are ok to use to put on a fur coat, run around for about 30 minutes in a room with no ventilation while you urinate on yourself.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:48 PM United States
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Personally, I keep chinchillas because I love them. As a decent human being, I do not like to cause unnecessary harm to those I love. Though as a worthless and stupid camp counselor, I don't know if my opinion gets to matter much.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:52 PM United States
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When I first got my chin from a lady rehoming her off of CL, she included a deathball. I first thought this was a wonderful idea, as I had a hamster at the time who was always cruising around the house in his ball. Before I joined CnQ, I tried her out in the ball, and she ended up just sitting in it, confused. She did move around a little bit in it after a time, but never anything like the hamster. What did become constant was her urinating inside the ball, and then having poo matted to her wet fur. I had joined CnH within the week of getting her and learned how these balls were not intended for, or safe for chins. Not only does a chin soil herself inside one of these balls, but the danger of overheating becomes a huge concern. This gets very dangerous in the heat of summer. While I believe these balls are ok for some animals, like my hamster for instance, I would never, never, never tell anyone it is ok to run a chin in one. It is not worth the risk you're putting your chin in.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:54 PM United States
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I "mouse-sit" for a nice young couple in my area on occasion. They have teeny tiny "death-balls" for their mice, and while the mice do race around the house and seem just fine with it, those balls are fit for burning after just 45 minutes! They are so slimy, stinky, and covered in wastes that it is all I can do to keep from . Having said that, mice are not like chinchillas, and as we all know, chins overheat far too easily. Trapping them in a little plastic ball is asking for trouble, either from overheating or from not being able to get away from their own messes.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:55 PM United States
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How could someone think its fun for the chin? They can't see clearly through the plastic, its hot and humid inside, when they run into something the ball stops and the chin gets slammed into the wall of the ball. They pee and roll around in it. Just because people are too lazy to chin proof a space they can run around freely, the chin gets tossed in a ball to make the owner "feel better they got to play". Its a cop out.

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Old 06-14-2010, 04:57 PM United States
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My first chin I was clueles.I read several books that were all wrong so I thought I knew what I was doing and I bought the ball of death.
I used it once,Harley peed in it and got it in his fur so I never used it again.I learned later how dangerous it really is and went ahead and threw the thing away.

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Old 06-14-2010, 04:59 PM United States
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I would never use one. I have no desire to see the world through a plastic ball. Shelly does not either. They are hot and stuffy. Why put a fur ball into a hot and stuffy ball? There will NEVER be a death ball in my house. I love my pet too much to do that to her.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:07 PM United States
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We don't call them "death balls" because we think it's funny. I have talked to people way too many times over the phone as they cry hysterically because they left their chin in the run around ball only to come back ten minutes later and find a dying chin. They call me because I'm a breeder and I can...what? Bring the chin back to life? No. They are death balls because they have been proven time and TIME again to KILL chinchillas.

I don't know where people come up with their ideas of what is safe or not. They obviously don't do research and because it turned out ok for them X amount of times it should be just fine for everyone else on the planet.

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Old 06-14-2010, 05:14 PM United States
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I agree with all the above. I did buy one for my first chinchilla, but all the things I had read said just to let them play, so after watching Fuzzy run, hop jump etc, I decided to trash the ball. I knew just by his actions a ball was too tiny and did not allow for natural chin play.
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