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to any admins, if you feel this belongs in an original post I made regarding the situation, please add this to it. I felt this is a different nature and topic in some cases and so made it a different post. SOrry if I made the wrong choice.
The reason I am writing this, is I would like to share the autopsy report I just got in the mail, made on my chinchilla after she died from pregnancy complications. I found out, due to this report, that the er physician, who is widley known as one of the best chinchilla and exotic doctors in this state, was grossly wrong, and from the beginning I was right about what was happening. I am going to share this report, ( the important info) . I am NOT in any way sugessting that people should throw a vet to the wind when things are wrong, but I want anyone who is new to breeding to know that if you are very sure about something when it comes to problems with your animals, or your guts are screaming something different, than voice it no matter how uninterested the vet seems, because things maybe could go better or differently.
Inthe beginning when I took her in, due to xrays, the vet at the er told me she had ONE half formed baby, who stopped forming around 2 months.
After she died, which was from surgery that she did not wake from, which I also tried less invasive oxytocin before that, I also signed a form wanting an autopsy done, or whatver they call them for animals, and also gave permission for her body to be used with the students to study chinchillas, because most of the techs didnt even know what she was.
The autoposy, findings, are that instead of just a bunch of blood and rotting in her right side from the half formed fetus being deteriorated, her right side was swollen, because there was a SECOND FULY FORMED FETUS THERE. on the left, there was the half one.
on the part where it says necropsy, which I am not exactly sure what it means, and I am not going to look, it says exactly: Fetus in right uterine horn severely necrotic and mid term (1/2 developed) ;fetus in left uterine horn late term fully developed, no other abnormalities at all.
Assessment: Mid term fetal death could occur with bacterial metritis, viral disease, or fetal trauma.
It says nothing about the full term one . However, before I took her in, I noticed the left one was right on the birth canal where it would come out but didnt, so it must have blocked the other one, you would think though if it was fully developed she would have had contractions, pushing it out, and then the live one forcing it out. I know so many things can go wrong, but I just dont understand how he could be so wrong... the head, back end, and arms and legs could be felt on the right side, and he determined before te autopsy that it was just fluid buildup. Also, he mixed up the right and left horn and what each one had in it, on the front page it says the left is the one with the fully formed fetus, the other last page says oppisite.
I know this changes, nothing. I know she cant come back. But I also question what would make him think that, and WHY he did not tell me this after opening her up and seeing it when he told me she died. Why did he continue with that to my face? I cannot believe someone of his education and calibar would miss a fully developed fetus and then only find it when he made out the report. I dont know if he didnt want to upset me more but I think there is a law or oath they take about telling the medical truth. So now I know there were two that died. I was sure for four months there were two, and shocked when he said only one half formed, because I felt movement on the left side a few weeks before all this.
I wonder why a doctor would do this, and I wish I would have taken more med classes. I took a lot of them, but not enough to warrent even thinking about helping with a situation like this on my own, however, if a problem like this occurs again, it will be handled very differently.
Anyone reading this thinking about breeding for fun or for friends, I am one of the people when I STARTED that thought and knew this happens, but was sure it wouldnt to me. As I went on, I knew one day something would happen, because the more you breed, one day either a stillborn or worse has to occur. Please keep these things in mind.
The reason I am writing this, is I would like to share the autopsy report I just got in the mail, made on my chinchilla after she died from pregnancy complications. I found out, due to this report, that the er physician, who is widley known as one of the best chinchilla and exotic doctors in this state, was grossly wrong, and from the beginning I was right about what was happening. I am going to share this report, ( the important info) . I am NOT in any way sugessting that people should throw a vet to the wind when things are wrong, but I want anyone who is new to breeding to know that if you are very sure about something when it comes to problems with your animals, or your guts are screaming something different, than voice it no matter how uninterested the vet seems, because things maybe could go better or differently.
Inthe beginning when I took her in, due to xrays, the vet at the er told me she had ONE half formed baby, who stopped forming around 2 months.
After she died, which was from surgery that she did not wake from, which I also tried less invasive oxytocin before that, I also signed a form wanting an autopsy done, or whatver they call them for animals, and also gave permission for her body to be used with the students to study chinchillas, because most of the techs didnt even know what she was.
The autoposy, findings, are that instead of just a bunch of blood and rotting in her right side from the half formed fetus being deteriorated, her right side was swollen, because there was a SECOND FULY FORMED FETUS THERE. on the left, there was the half one.
on the part where it says necropsy, which I am not exactly sure what it means, and I am not going to look, it says exactly: Fetus in right uterine horn severely necrotic and mid term (1/2 developed) ;fetus in left uterine horn late term fully developed, no other abnormalities at all.
Assessment: Mid term fetal death could occur with bacterial metritis, viral disease, or fetal trauma.
It says nothing about the full term one . However, before I took her in, I noticed the left one was right on the birth canal where it would come out but didnt, so it must have blocked the other one, you would think though if it was fully developed she would have had contractions, pushing it out, and then the live one forcing it out. I know so many things can go wrong, but I just dont understand how he could be so wrong... the head, back end, and arms and legs could be felt on the right side, and he determined before te autopsy that it was just fluid buildup. Also, he mixed up the right and left horn and what each one had in it, on the front page it says the left is the one with the fully formed fetus, the other last page says oppisite.
I know this changes, nothing. I know she cant come back. But I also question what would make him think that, and WHY he did not tell me this after opening her up and seeing it when he told me she died. Why did he continue with that to my face? I cannot believe someone of his education and calibar would miss a fully developed fetus and then only find it when he made out the report. I dont know if he didnt want to upset me more but I think there is a law or oath they take about telling the medical truth. So now I know there were two that died. I was sure for four months there were two, and shocked when he said only one half formed, because I felt movement on the left side a few weeks before all this.
I wonder why a doctor would do this, and I wish I would have taken more med classes. I took a lot of them, but not enough to warrent even thinking about helping with a situation like this on my own, however, if a problem like this occurs again, it will be handled very differently.
Anyone reading this thinking about breeding for fun or for friends, I am one of the people when I STARTED that thought and knew this happens, but was sure it wouldnt to me. As I went on, I knew one day something would happen, because the more you breed, one day either a stillborn or worse has to occur. Please keep these things in mind.
